Re: [earlywarning] Finishing the Charter Text Discussions

Janet P Gunn <> Wed, 07 April 2010 21:46 UTC

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I think that the relative priority of "citizen to authority", "authority 
to citizen", "authority to authority",  and even "citizen to citizen" 
needs to be a matter of "local policy", and independent of any IETF 
defined mechanism.


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"Brian Rosen" <>et>, "ken carlberg" <>uk>, 
Hannes Tschofenig <>et>,
04/07/2010 04:06 PM
Re: [earlywarning] Finishing the Charter Text Discussions

Absolutely false!!

You have no clue what the incoming emergency call is about - it could be
a kitty in the tree call, as you put it, or it could be "I just had a
heart attack and need help immediately".

An authority to citizen "call" should never take priority over a citizen
to authority, and this is regulated ni the FCC rules for CMAS.

And your typhoon analogy proves the point - a typhoon is known several
days in advance, while you have minutes to take action on a heart

Brian Daly

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Generally, it's not a good idea for any service to impede any other
but we don't have to say that all the time.  Here, I think we don't have
discuss how authority to citizen should be prioritized over citizen to
authority.  I rather suspect that an outgoing warning of an impending
typhoon is more important that an incoming kitty-in-the-tree call, but
that's just me.

ATOCA may or may not be a replacement for something that exists.  Agree
Ken, the market (and in this case, likely governments) will decide.

So I would not want to see this text in the charter.


On 4/7/10 3:48 PM, "ken carlberg" <> wrote:

> On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:30 AM, SENNETT, DEWAYNE A (ATTCINW) wrote:
>> "The ATOCA solutions will not adversely affect the ability of any
>> technology to provide emergency services to the citizens (e.g. 9-1-1
>> calls) or to provide communication services to first responders or
>> authorized emergency services personnel.  Additionally, ATOCA is not
>> replacement solution for any authority to citizen alerting supported
>> any access technology."
> given the previous thread on this list, I'm a bit leery of that first
> sentence.  But, if it were agreed to add it in, then I would expect
> individuals who make a claim that an ATOCA solution adversely affects
> type calls will be required to prove it instead of simply stating a
> as for the second sentence, that is out of scope of the IETF.  any
> of what is considered an ATOCA solution is a market decision.
> -ken
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