Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience"

Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> Sun, 16 January 2011 15:19 UTC

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Hi Art, 

that's an interesting comment particularly since we do not have a requirement for responses by receivers (or Recipients) of alert messages. I am not sure to whom they would sent their response to. To the originator, to some gateway, etc? 

Ciao
Hannes

On Jan 15, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Art Botterell wrote:

> One difference in "broadcast" delivery is that it's frequntly impractical and/or undesirable to try to track individual deliveries or process individual responses.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Art
> 
> On Jan 15, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> during the ATOCA meeting at IETF#79 Igor raised a question regarding requirement D2:
>> "
>>  Req-D2:
>> 
>>     The protocol solution MUST allow delivery of messages
>>     simultaneously to a large audience.
>> "
>> 
>> He was asking whether there is a need to put a number for large audience there.
>> 
>> Maybe Igor has a specific number in mind that would matter from a protocol design perspective but I do not have such a number that would provide a meaningful distinction. 
>> 
>> There is, however, the question what types of problems we expect with very large number of alert message receivers and how we document this aspect in the requirements document. 
>> 
>> Suggestions? Thoughts? 
>> 
>> Ciao
>> Hannes
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