Re: [earlywarning] Commentson draft-schulzrinne-atoca-requirements-00
"Carl Reed" <creed@opengeospatial.org> Wed, 21 July 2010 21:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [earlywarning] Commentson draft-schulzrinne-atoca-requirements-00
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The requirements document is attached. Regards Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hannes Tschofenig" <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net> To: "Carl Reed" <creed@opengeospatial.org>; <trutkowski@netmagic.com> Cc: <earlywarning@ietf.org>; <hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [earlywarning] Commentson draft-schulzrinne-atoca-requirements-00 > Good to hear that CAP 2.0 will include a GML profile. > What location shapes are going to be supported? We ran into this issue in > ECRIT. > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Datum: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:33:05 -0600 >> Von: "Carl Reed" <creed@opengeospatial.org> >> An: "Hannes Tschofenig" <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net>, >> trutkowski@netmagic.com >> CC: "Tschofenig, Hannes \\(NSN - FI/Espoo\\)" >> <hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com>, earlywarning@ietf.org >> Betreff: Re: [earlywarning] Commentson >> draft-schulzrinne-atoca-requirements-00 > >> Correct - >> >> CAP is a payload and is (theoretically) transport agnostic. FYI, CAP 2.0 >> will incorporate a GML profile that will include the same geometry types >> (plus additional ones) as the LO GML Geoshape Application Schema. The >> only >> issue is that the OASIS GML "where" profile will use GML 3.2.1 to be >> consistent with the ISO version of GML and the LO Geoshape schema uses >> GML 3.1.1. >> >> Cheers >> >> Carl >> an OASIS CAP contributor >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Hannes Tschofenig >> To: trutkowski@netmagic.com >> Cc: earlywarning@ietf.org ; Tschofenig,Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [earlywarning] Commentson >> draft-schulzrinne-atoca-requirements-00 >> >> >> Hi Tony, >> >> thanks for pointing to the CAP Implementer's workshop and in particular >> the "Draft Implementors Note on Harmonizing Certain Identifiers in CAP >> Implementations" >> http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/ISS/Meetings/WIS-CAP_Geneva2009/DraftNote.doc. >> >> My understanding of that document (and my participation at an earlier >> workshop) is there is room for improvement in the CAP specification from >> an >> interoperability point of view. >> >> Since the work in this group only focuses on the transport of alerts >> rather than the actual content of the alerts we should not be impacted. >> >> Ciao >> Hannes >> >> On 16.07.2010 13:05, Tony Rutkowski wrote: >> Hi Martin, >> >> You might also consider the concepts on architecture >> and identity constructs that emerged from last year's >> global gathering of emergency messaging authorities >> convened at the World Meteorological Organization. >> >> http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/ISS/Meetings/WIS-CAP_Geneva2009/DocPlan.html >> >> See especially the Draft Implementors Note. >> >> best, >> tony >> >> >> I'm currently unsure about the value of this document. The >> different components of the document are somewhat disjointed: problem >> statement, >> architectural model, and requirements don't support each other >> particularly >> well. >> >> General Comments: >> >> This model presented in this document is highly abstract. Without >> a >> more concrete relationship with the requirements, it's hard to understand >> the value of the model. Section 3 looks too much like a copy-and-paste >> from the email architecture. >> >> A simpler model might be a better starting point: >> author [1..*] -> [1] aggregator [1] -> [1..*] recipient >> >> Such a model can be evolved to involve relays or mediators by >> overlapping and chaining roles, just as we do for the GEOPRIV model. >> Nothing >> wrong with giving these entities names and descriptions, but they can >> form >> part of a second architectural layer. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> earlywarning mailing list >> earlywarning@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/earlywarning >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> earlywarning mailing list >> earlywarning@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/earlywarning >
- [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-atoc… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Brian Rosen
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] Commentson draft-schulzrinne-a… Carl Reed
- Re: [earlywarning] Commentson draft-schulzrinne-a… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] Commentson draft-schulzrinne-a… Carl Reed
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Thomson, Martin
- Re: [earlywarning] Comments on draft-schulzrinne-… Brian Rosen