Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Categories
"David Aylward \(Comcare\)" <daylward@comcare.org> Sun, 12 July 2009 16:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Categories
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Hannes: As Art says, CAP's incident list is very general. To further Art's point, when it came to the development of what became the OASIS EDXL Distribution Element (DE), we faced the same issue as a primary purpose of the DE is routing messages by incident type. The CAP categories were far too broad for that. So the draft requirements and specification for the DE developed by the cross emergency domain practitioner working group developed a detailed list of incident types for submission to the OASIS EMTC as part of its request for the development of that standard. The EMTC wisely rejected our suggestion, thinking that (1) the work to create a shared incident type taxomony should be done for the US and other countries, but hadn't been done yet, and (2) such lists of incident types would likely change more frequently than the standard. So they adopted a flexible solution of "Managed Lists" for this and similar list issues (e.g. roles). Under this approach values such as incident names appear in the standard, along with the name of the managed list you are using. If there is only one Managed List for that topic in the world, great, but if there are several you can still communicate because you know which list is being used. The absence of both initial managed lists and a repository for their locations is an identified gap that hopefully will be addressed soon. A number of us developed a project to do Managed Lists for incident names and roles, but other priorities have gotten in the way. David K. Aylward, President COMCARE Emergency Response Technology Group 1351 Independence Court, SE Washington, DC 20003 202.255.3215 (mobile) 202.295.0136 (office) 202.521.4047 (fax) daylward@comcare.org This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to which it is addressed, and may contain confidential, personal and/or privileged information. Please contact us immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. -----Original Message----- From: cap-list-bounces@lists.incident.com [mailto:cap-list-bounces@lists.incident.com] On Behalf Of Art Botterell Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:52 AM To: cap-list@incident.com; earlywarning@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CAP] Definition of Warning Categories On Jul 12, 2009, at 7/12/09 3:58 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > I was wondering whether there is somewhere a more verbose / more > complete > description of the semantic of the individual values. No, and that's deliberate. Considering the high levels of uncertainty that so often surround emergent events, the CAP designers (first in the CAP Working Group and later within OASIS) struggled to balance completeness against specificity. There was also a concern that we could get bogged down in trying to perfect the taxonomies and wind up with no standard at all. So the definitions were deliberately left somewhat open-ended and contextual... some would go so far as to say "vague" and I, for one, wouldn't argue. - Art _______________________________________________ This list is for public discussion of the Common Alerting Protocol. This list is NOT part of the formal record of the OASIS Emergency Management TC. Comments for the OASIS record should be posted using the form at http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/form.php?wg_abbrev=emergency CAP-list mailing list CAP-list@lists.incident.com http://lists.incident.com/mailman/listinfo/cap-list This list is not for announcements, advertising or advocacy of any particular program or product other than the CAP itself.
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Tony Rutkowski
- [earlywarning] Definition of Warning Categories Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Art Botterell
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Art Botterell
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… David Aylward (Comcare)
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Art Botterell
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… David Aylward (Comcare)
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… David Aylward (Comcare)
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… James M. Polk
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… David Aylward (Comcare)
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… creed
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Art Botterell
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Art Botterell
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Timothy Grapes
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Rex Buddenberg
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Rex Buddenberg
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Brian Rosen
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Timothy Grapes