Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience"
"Thomson, Martin" <Martin.Thomson@andrew.com> Mon, 17 January 2011 05:09 UTC
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From: "Thomson, Martin" <Martin.Thomson@andrew.com>
To: Art Botterell <artbotterell@gmail.com>, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:12:05 +0800
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Subject: Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience"
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Interesting tidbit from the Australian warning system discussions: the originating systems (the first relay) provides a report to the emergency authority on the number of deliveries. That suggests that feedback occurs at some level. I don't know whether this sort of reporting is something that would be part of a requirement, but I'll try to find out. --Martin On 2011-01-17 at 14:20:37, Art Botterell wrote: > Mainly I was just suggesting one way of looking at the "how large is > 'large'" question. Although it does highlight some of Martin's > questions about how to adapt a session initiation protocol to a one-to- > very-many application, if that's what we have in mind. As he rightly > points out, responses don't only happen at the application level. > > Thanks! > > - Art > > On Jan 16, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Hannes Tschofenig > <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> wrote: > > > Hi Art, > > > > that's an interesting comment particularly since we do not have a > requirement for responses by receivers (or Recipients) of alert > messages. I am not sure to whom they would sent their response to. To > the originator, to some gateway, etc? > > > > Ciao > > Hannes > > > > On Jan 15, 2011, at 11:58 PM, Art Botterell wrote: > > > >> One difference in "broadcast" delivery is that it's frequntly > impractical and/or undesirable to try to track individual deliveries or > process individual responses. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> - Art > >> > >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Hannes Tschofenig > <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> during the ATOCA meeting at IETF#79 Igor raised a question > regarding requirement D2: > >>> " > >>> Req-D2: > >>> > >>> The protocol solution MUST allow delivery of messages > >>> simultaneously to a large audience. > >>> " > >>> > >>> He was asking whether there is a need to put a number for large > audience there. > >>> > >>> Maybe Igor has a specific number in mind that would matter from a > protocol design perspective but I do not have such a number that would > provide a meaningful distinction. > >>> > >>> There is, however, the question what types of problems we expect > with very large number of alert message receivers and how we document > this aspect in the requirements document. > >>> > >>> Suggestions? Thoughts? > >>> > >>> Ciao > >>> Hannes > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> earlywarning mailing list > >>> earlywarning@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/earlywarning > > > _______________________________________________ > earlywarning mailing list > earlywarning@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/earlywarning
- [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Art Botterell
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Art Botterell
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Thomson, Martin
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" DALY, BRIAN K (ATTCINW)
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" DALY, BRIAN K (ATTCINW)
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" mark.wood
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Brian Rosen
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Peter Sanders
- [Atoca] FW: Requirement D2: "Large Audience" mark.wood
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" mark.wood
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Thomson, Martin
- [Atoca] On broadcasting and authentication/author… Igor Faynberg
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" mark.wood
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Brian Rosen
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" DALY, BRIAN K (ATTCINW)
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" Brian Rosen
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" James M. Polk
- Re: [Atoca] Requirement D2: "Large Audience" James M. Polk