Re: [Ecrit] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-20
Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Thu, 15 December 2016 14:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-20
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Thanks Randy. Trimming down to ones where I have follow-up: > On Dec 14, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> wrote: > >> >> = Section 9.1.3.1 = >> >> (1) msgid is underspecified. What is it supposed to be used for? >> Why is it Conditional? > > It's used in draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash. It's Conditional because it > is only needed when using static messages. It's used to indicate > either the static message that the vehicle should display/speak to > the occupants, or the set of static messages supported by the vehicle > (by specifying the highest supported value). I added clarifying text > to the Description: > > Description: Defined for extensibility. Documents that make use of > it are expected to explain when it is required and how it it used. > > Anything more explicit would require that I mention static messages, > which are not used in this document (they're used in car-crash), and > I'm afraid that would be more confusing. The design of this seems like it could be improved, then. Since the attributes are generic and could be used to describe a variety of requests, wouldn’t it make more sense to specify a generic ID attribute in the event that a future extension defines some other action which also makes use of integer IDs? Come to think of it, isn’t this basically what element-ID is for, except that element-ID is a token rather than an integer? If the msgid attribute really only makes sense in the context of a specific extension defined elsewhere, it doesn’t make sense to define it narrowly here. > > >> >> (2) For supported-values, requested-state, and element-ID, what is >> the expectation about where and how the permitted values will be >> specified? > > Since these are all defined for extensibility, the expectation is > that the document that uses it defines this. The car-crash draft > makes use of them and defines this. I don’t see where car-crash uses requested-state or element-ID. Are you sure you need them (with a caveat about needing some kind of ID, per my comment above)? Thanks, Alissa
- [Ecrit] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-20 Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ecrit] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall… Ivo Sedlacek
- Re: [Ecrit] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ecrit] AD evaluation: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall… Randall Gellens