Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-11 -- end date Oct 13
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From: "Caron, Guy" <g.caron@bell.ca>
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-11 -- end date
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Inline. I will point out that all my proposed editorial changes are just that, editorial and are not meant to be blocking WGLC progress. I leave it to the authors to accept or reject any and all of those suggested changes. Guy -----Message d'origine----- De : Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Envoyé : 6 octobre 2021 10:43 À : Caron, Guy <g.caron@bell.ca> Cc : ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org> Objet : [EXT]Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-11 -- end date Oct 13 I have comments on a few of Guy's proposed edits; the ones not mentioned below I have no opinion on. (1) Regarding Guy's proposal to delete geodetic location from the definition of "Location" as well as the definition of "Geodetic Location," I think it would be more confusing to do that. Note that the definition of "Geodetic Location" says "Note: geodetic location is defined here for context, but is not used elsewhere within this document." We could add additional clarifying text if anyone feels it's needed, e.g., adding to the "Location" definition text such as "However, geodetic location is out of scope of this document." [GC] I suggest - Location: In the context of this document, the term Location is restricted to a civic location. And get rid of the Geodetic Location definition. (2) Regarding Guy's proposed insertion of "proffered" into the definition of "Similar Location," I suggest instead adding "queried" as I think it's more clear (especially for some English speakers). [GC] Languages are not 100% codified, which lives room for preferences and style. I don’t think “queried” is more clear than “proffered”. I would argue that “queried” is less accurate in the sense that the findService Request is not querying something, it is offering/presenting/requesting a location to be processed for validation. I recognize that “query”/”queried” are used in the document, along with “provided” and “input”, and “proffered” would be a new word. Despite the fact that I think “proffered” is appropriate, I will not die on that hill. I do take exception to the commentary in parenthesis though, which I find on the tangent of being offensive and discriminatory. I’m not sure if these comments were submitted as an individual or as an IETF WG Chairperson but think about the message this is sending to this community or international participants: If you mother tongue is not English, you do not have the moral authority to suggest editorial changes. (3) In Section 3, in the paragraph starting "In a LoST <findServiceResponse>", Guy suggests adding "the" in front of "<HNO>, <RD>, <STS>, <POD>, <A3> and <A1> Civic Address Elements". I disagree; the sentence reads better without it. [GC] Matter of style. I don’t care. (4) Also in Section 3, in the paragraph starting "The information provided in the request may be enough", Guy suggests changing "alert the user to" to "alert the user of". I disagree, "to" reads better. [GC] “Alert to” calls for an immediate action while “alert of” is more passive and is meant to raise awareness. I took the latter to be appropriate in the context but I’m fine either way. (5) Section 4, second paragraph, Guy suggests changing "cannot assume that any of them are the correct location" to "cannot assume that any of them is the correct location". I suggest either retaining "are" or changing to "is" and also adding "one" in front of "any": "cannot assume that any one of them is the correct location." [GC] I’m fine with this suggestion. --Randall On 5 Oct 2021, at 13:44, Caron, Guy wrote: > I've reviewed -11 and only have editorial changes to propose. Embedded > in track-change in the MSWord version attached. I did not recheck the > XML schema. > > Other than that, I'm fine with advancing this document. > > Thanks, > > Guy > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Ecrit <ecrit-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org>> De la part de Randall Gellens > Envoyé : 29 septembre 2021 15:52 À : ECRIT <ecrit@ietf.org<mailto:ecrit@ietf.org>> Objet : > [EXT][Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-11 -- end date Oct > 13 > > This starts WGLC for draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-11, a LoST > extension to return complete or similar location info. > > Please send both comments and messages that you support advancement of > the draft to this mailing list before October 13. > > Thank you, > > --Randall > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org<mailto:Ecrit@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- External Email: Please use caution when opening links and > attachments / Courriel externe: Soyez prudent avec les liens et > documents joints ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ External Email: Please use caution when opening links and attachments / Courriel externe: Soyez prudent avec les liens et documents joints
- [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-11… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Dwight Purtle
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Caron, Guy
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Dan Banks
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Caron, Guy
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Dan Banks
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Roger Marshall
- Re: [Ecrit] WGLC draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-locatio… Jeff Martin