Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt

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From: Dan Banks <dbanks@ddti.net>
To: Roger Marshall <roger.marshall@comtechtel.com>, Michael Smith <msmith@equature.com>, "ecrit@ietf.org" <ecrit@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
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We changed the input and the similar addresses in this example to all have Avenue spelled out, and focused on the 'North' being the problem.  Leaving 'Ave' abbreviated would also be a perfectly reasonable example for an invalid location, but I do not believe that was the intent with this example.

The 'Ave' that I am pointing out is in the discussion and does not match the given input address, which I believe was an oversight during the last edit.

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ecrit <ecrit-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Roger Marshall
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 4:57 PM
> To: Michael Smith <msmith@equature.com>; ecrit@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
> 
> Yes, Michael is correct.  In this case, the intent of including "Ave" in the
> example was to point out that there would NOT be a match when compared
> to what was inside the database, namely, "Avenue".
> 
> -roger.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ecrit <ecrit-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Michael Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 1:52 PM
> To: ecrit@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
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> 
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> I thought the use of "Ave" was the reason there was no such thing as "15th
> Ave North". Did I miss the point of the example?
> 
> I would prefer that the examples follow the convention of separating the
> street address from the city with a comma, like "6000 15th Avenue North,
> Seattle, WA". It doesn't affect implementation of course, but "6000 15th
> Avenue, North Seattle, WA " is different from "6000 15th Avenue North,
> Seattle, WA". It's a very small nit, and up to the editor as far as I'm
> concerned.
> 
> I also noticed the "gt;" issue but didn't see any others when I searched for it.
> 
> I support advancing the document. It seems pretty clear to me.
> 
> Michael Smith
> Chief Technologist, Equature/DSS Corp.
> Ph: 606.877.2788 | Mobile: 606.231.0243
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ecrit <ecrit-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Dan Banks
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:21 PM
> To: ecrit@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
> 
> I am satisfied with the changes made in this version.  There are a handful of
> new editorial issues:
> 
> Invalid Location and Valid Location definitions have a difference in wording
> that I think is unintentional:
> Invalid Location:  A Civic Location that, when included versus Valid
> Location:  A Civic Location, when included I prefer the inclusion of 'that'.
> Both of these definitions are also missing a period at the end.
> 
> In section 3,
> there is no such thing as "15th Ave North should be there is no such thing as
> "15th Avenue North"
> (expand Ave and add missing double quote)
> 
> In the first paragraph of section 4, there appears to be an escaping issue:
> <civicAddressgt;
> 
> I still believe the document could be improved with a bit of reorganization of
> sections 3 and 4, but I support advancing the document without additional
> changes if that is the consensus.
> 
> Dan Banks
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ecrit <ecrit-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of
> > internet-drafts@ietf.org
> > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 7:30 PM
> > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
> > Cc: ecrit@ietf.org
> > Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
> >
> >
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with
> > Internet Technologies WG of the IETF.
> >
> >         Title           : A LoST extension to return complete and similar
> location info
> >         Authors         : Brian Rosen
> >                           Roger Marshall
> >                           Jeff Martin
> >       Filename        : draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
> >       Pages           : 17
> >       Date            : 2021-10-11
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    This document introduces a new way to provide returned location
> >    information in LoST responses that is either of a completed or
> >    similar form to the original input civic location, based on whether
> >    valid or invalid civic address elements are returned within the
> >    <findServiceResponse> message.  This document defines a new
> extension
> >    to the <findServiceResponse> message within the LoST protocol
> >    [RFC5222] that enables the LoST protocol to return in a response a
> >    completed civic address element set for a valid location response,
> >    and one or more suggested sets of similar location information for an
> >    invalid location.  These two types of civic addresses are referred to
> >    as either "complete location" or "similar location", and are included
> >    as a compilation of CAtype xml elements within the existing LoST
> >    <findServiceResponse> message structure.
> >
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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