Re: [Ecrit] URN: for people with hearing loss
Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu> Thu, 20 July 2017 03:52 UTC
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From: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 23:52:21 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] URN: for people with hearing loss
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Inline. On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Drage, Keith (Nokia - GB) < keith.drage@nokia.com> wrote: Replying to the thread as a whole, rather than just to the last message. Firstly I think we should ignore SMS from a solution based on service URN for a number of reasons. It has been specified by the regulator as an emergency service in the UK, but imposes no requirements on the mobile operators to treat it any different to a normal SMS, therefore it is formally still a store and forward service. My understanding is that this is regarded as a means to an end, rather than an ideal solution, and ultimately real time text would be the preferred solution. 3GPP does not define an emergency form of SMS, and SMS does not meet the service requirements for emergency call, primarily the need for an interactive communication. This illustrates the problem of trying to define emergency too narrowly. By US regulation (47 CFR 20.18), text-to-911 (currently, SMS) is indeed mandatory to provide as an emergency service for US cellular carriers. (It is naturally not a "call", but it is emergency communication.) However, this may not matter unless such SMS gets converted to MSRP (say) and then needs to be routed to a different location than service:sos voice or multimedia calls. This does not currently appear to be the case, but could be. In regard to obtaining a real time text service, surely there are two issues here – do I require routeing to a specialist endpoint, and how do I indicate to the remote endpoint that real time text is required. Surely we only require routeing to a specialist endpoint if either the technology at a normal endpoint cannot handle the service, or a specialist user is required. My understanding of the UK perspective on this is that when a move is made to IP PSAPs, the intention is that all 1st level PSAPs will be capable of handling real time text (in my understanding not a particularly expensive requirement), and that all PSAP attendants will be trained to handle such calls. If that is the case, then there is no special routeing requirement. In terms of indicating the need to the endpoint, then SDP is sufficient. Thus from the UK perspective, I am not understanding the need for anything beyond the existing SOS URN. I would add that in adding .msg as a subtype, there would be considerable confusion as to its precedence with other subtypes, such as fire. Is sos.msg.fire the same as sos.fire.msg? Assuming those combinations are defined as legal in the first place. Note that if sos.fire.msg was used, and the responder did not understand .fire, then the result would only be understood as sos, and not as sos.msg. Therefore I see major issues of reuse of the URN to indicate this requirement. I did not suggest a message (.msg) suffix, for the reasons you mention and since this seems unnecessary based on the services actually deployed. As a stopgap, while there are mixed TDM-IP networks (with legacy customer networks) that use special-purpose numbers, such as sos.message URN may be needed to reach the right gateway (e.g., a TTY-to-RTT gateway). If a user dials the special TTY (or fax) number, the network can't distinguish this from a regular voice call, as you know, so either all PSAPs have to be able to handle fax and TTY, or the call has to be initially directed to the special-purpose gateway. Naturally, if Henning
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- Re: [Ecrit] URN: for people with hearing loss Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Ecrit] URN: for people with hearing loss Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] URN: for people with hearing loss Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Ecrit] URN: for people with hearing loss Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] URN: for people with hearing loss Drage, Keith (Nokia - GB)
- Re: [Ecrit] URN: for people with hearing loss Henning Schulzrinne