Re: [Ecrit] Objection to draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall progressing to state "Submitted to IESG for Publication"

"Drage, Keith (Nokia - GB)" <keith.drage@nokia.com> Fri, 02 December 2016 14:11 UTC

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From: "Drage, Keith (Nokia - GB)" <keith.drage@nokia.com>
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Objection to draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall progressing to state "Submitted to IESG for Publication"
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+1 to Christer and Ivo

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christer Holmberg
Sent: 01 December 2016 20:01
To: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Objection to draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall progressing to state "Submitted to IESG for Publication"

Hi,

>>  So, exactly what wording do you intend to add?
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>>  Christer
>
> Hi Christer,
>
> I propose to add to Section 1 ("Terminology") the following:
>
> ----------
> In this document, the term "attach" means to include a specified set 
>of data as a body  part within a SIP message. Section 7 ("Data 
>Transport") describes how an MSD or  metadata/control block is included in a SIP message.
>----------

I think we should properly fix the text throughout the document, as suggested by Ivo. It's not that much work to do.

Regards,

Christer

>>  On 30 Nov 2016, at 1.00, Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> wrote:
>>
>>  At 3:28 PM -0500 11/29/16, Brian Rosen wrote:
>>
>>>  Despite your characterization, there is no technical issue here. 
>>> Everyone agrees on how the mechanism works.  There is an editorial 
>>> issue on interpreting the word "attached".  I don't object to 
>>> wordsmithing to make it more clear, but it's not a technical problem 
>>> and it can be dealt with any time before publication.
>>
>>  I agree and plan to add clarifying wording as part of IETF Last Call.
>>
>>  --
>>  Randall Gellens
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