Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt

Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Tue, 26 October 2021 21:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
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I support spelling out "Avenue" in the text.

--Randall

On 12 Oct 2021, at 14:22, Dan Banks wrote:

> We changed the input and the similar addresses in this example to all 
> have Avenue spelled out, and focused on the 'North' being the problem. 
>  Leaving 'Ave' abbreviated would also be a perfectly reasonable 
> example for an invalid location, but I do not believe that was the 
> intent with this example.
>
> The 'Ave' that I am pointing out is in the discussion and does not 
> match the given input address, which I believe was an oversight during 
> the last edit.
>
> Dan
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ecrit <ecrit-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Roger Marshall
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 4:57 PM
>> To: Michael Smith <msmith@equature.com>om>; ecrit@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: 
>> draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
>>
>> Yes, Michael is correct.  In this case, the intent of including "Ave" 
>> in the
>> example was to point out that there would NOT be a match when 
>> compared
>> to what was inside the database, namely, "Avenue".
>>
>> -roger.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ecrit <ecrit-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Michael Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 1:52 PM
>> To: ecrit@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: 
>> draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
>>
>>
>> WARNING: External Email: Exercise Caution
>>
>> I thought the use of "Ave" was the reason there was no such thing as 
>> "15th
>> Ave North". Did I miss the point of the example?
>>
>> I would prefer that the examples follow the convention of separating 
>> the
>> street address from the city with a comma, like "6000 15th Avenue 
>> North,
>> Seattle, WA". It doesn't affect implementation of course, but "6000 
>> 15th
>> Avenue, North Seattle, WA " is different from "6000 15th Avenue 
>> North,
>> Seattle, WA". It's a very small nit, and up to the editor as far as 
>> I'm
>> concerned.
>>
>> I also noticed the "gt;" issue but didn't see any others when I 
>> searched for it.
>>
>> I support advancing the document. It seems pretty clear to me.
>>
>> Michael Smith
>> Chief Technologist, Equature/DSS Corp.
>> Ph: 606.877.2788 | Mobile: 606.231.0243
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ecrit <ecrit-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Dan Banks
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:21 PM
>> To: ecrit@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: 
>> draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
>>
>> I am satisfied with the changes made in this version.  There are a 
>> handful of
>> new editorial issues:
>>
>> Invalid Location and Valid Location definitions have a difference in 
>> wording
>> that I think is unintentional:
>> Invalid Location:  A Civic Location that, when included versus Valid
>> Location:  A Civic Location, when included I prefer the inclusion of 
>> 'that'.
>> Both of these definitions are also missing a period at the end.
>>
>> In section 3,
>> there is no such thing as "15th Ave North should be there is no such 
>> thing as
>> "15th Avenue North"
>> (expand Ave and add missing double quote)
>>
>> In the first paragraph of section 4, there appears to be an escaping 
>> issue:
>> <civicAddressgt;
>>
>> I still believe the document could be improved with a bit of 
>> reorganization of
>> sections 3 and 4, but I support advancing the document without 
>> additional
>> changes if that is the consensus.
>>
>> Dan Banks
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ecrit <ecrit-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of
>>> internet-drafts@ietf.org
>>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 7:30 PM
>>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
>>> Cc: ecrit@ietf.org
>>> Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: 
>>> draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
>>>
>>>
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>>> This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with
>>> Internet Technologies WG of the IETF.
>>>
>>>         Title           : A LoST extension to return complete and 
>>> similar
>> location info
>>>         Authors         : Brian Rosen
>>>                           Roger Marshall
>>>                           Jeff Martin
>>>       Filename        : draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-12.txt
>>>       Pages           : 17
>>>       Date            : 2021-10-11
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>    This document introduces a new way to provide returned location
>>>    information in LoST responses that is either of a completed or
>>>    similar form to the original input civic location, based on 
>>> whether
>>>    valid or invalid civic address elements are returned within the
>>>    <findServiceResponse> message.  This document defines a new
>> extension
>>>    to the <findServiceResponse> message within the LoST protocol
>>>    [RFC5222] that enables the LoST protocol to return in a response 
>>> a
>>>    completed civic address element set for a valid location 
>>> response,
>>>    and one or more suggested sets of similar location information 
>>> for an
>>>    invalid location.  These two types of civic addresses are 
>>> referred to
>>>    as either "complete location" or "similar location", and are 
>>> included
>>>    as a compilation of CAtype xml elements within the existing LoST
>>>    <findServiceResponse> message structure.
>>>
>>>
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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