Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comments sought
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Based on text feedback from the list, I've updated the Charter text and Milestones. See below.
(I've also included an attached file for redlined changes)
ECRIT charter (as revised):
Description of Working Group:
In a number of areas, the public switched telephone network (PSTN) has
been configured to recognize an explicitly specified number (usually
one that is short and easily memorized) as a request for emergency
services. These numbers (e.g., 911, 112) are related to an emergency
service context and depend on a broad, regional configuration of
service contact methods and a geographically-constrained approach for
service delivery. These calls are intended to be delivered to special
call centers equipped to manage emergency response. Successful
delivery of an emergency service call within those systems requires
an association of both the physical location of the originating device
along with appropriate call routing to an emergency service center.
Calls placed using Internet technologies do not use the same systems
Mentioned above to achieve those same goals, and the common use of
overlay networks and tunnels (either as VPNs or for mobility) makes
meeting these goals even more challenging. There are, however,
Internet technologies available to manage location and to perform call
routing. This working group will describe where and how these mechanisms
may be used. The group will show how the availability of location data
and call routing information at different steps in the call session
setup would enable communication between a user and a relevant emergency
response center. Though the term "call routing" is used,
it should be understood that some of the mechanisms which will be
described might be used to enable other types of media streams.
Beyond human initiated emergency call request mechanisms, this group will
develop new methods to request emergency assistance, such as sensor
initiated emergency requests, and additional processes specified that
address topics such as authentication of location, service URN definition
and use, augmented information that could assist emergency call takers or
responders.
Explicitly outside the scope of this group is the question of
pre-emption or prioritization of emergency services traffic. This
group is considering emergency services calls which might be made by
any user of the Internet, as opposed to government or military
services that may impose very different authentication and routing
requirements.
While this group anticipates a close working relationship with groups
such as NENA, EENA, 3GPP, and ETSI , any solution presented must be
general enough to be potentially useful in or across multiple regions
or jurisdictions, and it must be possible to use without requiring a
single, central authority. Further, it must be possible for multiple
delegations within a jurisdiction to be handled independently, things
such as call routing for specific emergency types, media types, language
contents, etc., may be routed differently depending on established
policies and availability.
This working group cares about privacy and security concerns, and will
address them within its documents.
Also, dependent on the above text, Gunnar has suggested the addition of the
following milestone:
xxx 2014 - Submit a draft 'Policy based routing in Emergency Services'
to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC
The complete Milestone list (as revised):
Done Informational RFC containing terminology definitions and the requirements
Done An Informational document describing the threats and security considerations
Done A Standards Track RFC describing how to identify a session set-up request is to an emergency response center
Done A Standards Track RFC describing how to route an emergency call based on location information
Done An Informational document describing the Mapping Protocol Architecture
Done Submit 'Location Hiding: Problem Statement and Requirements' to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC.
Done Submit 'Framework for Emergency Calling using Internet Multimedia' to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC.
Done Submit 'Best Current Practice for Communications Services in support of Emergency Calling' to the IESG for consideration as a BCP document
Done Submit 'LoST Extension for returning Boundary Information for Services' to the IESG for consideration as an Experimental RFC
Done Submit 'Synchronizing Location-to-Service Translation (LoST) Protocol based Service Boundaries and Mapping Elements' to the IESG for consideration as an Experimental RFC
Done Submit 'Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) Callbacks' to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC
Done Submit 'Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices' to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC
Nov 2013 - Submit 'Trustworthy Location Information' to the IESG for
consideration as an Informational RFC
Dec 2013 - Submit 'Additional Data related to a Call for Emergency Call
Purposes' to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC
Nov 2013 - Submit 'Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) based Data-Only
Emergency Alerts using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' to the IESG for consideration as an
Experimental RFC
Dec 2013 - Submit a draft 'Policy for defining new service-identifying
labels' to the IESG for consideration as BCP
Mar 2014 - Submit 'Using Imprecise Location for Emergency Call Routing'
to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC
Dec 2013 - Submit a draft 'URN For Country Specific Emergency Services'
to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC
Dec 2014 - Submit a draft 'Policy based routing in Emergency Services'
to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC
From: ecrit-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gunnar Hellstrom
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:53 PM
To: Gellens, Randall
Cc: ecrit@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comments sought
An addition could be made to this sentence:
"Further, it must be possible for multiple delegations within a jurisdiction to be handled independently, as call routing for specific emergency types may be handled independently."
To
"Further, it must be possible for multiple delegations within a jurisdiction to be handled independently, as call routing for specific emergency types, media types, language contents etc. may be routed differently depending on established policies and availability."
And in the goals list include:
xxx 2014 - Submit a draft 'Policy based routing in Emergency Services'
to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC
Regards
Gunnar
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Gunnar Hellström
Omnitor
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On 2013-10-13 19:22, Gellens, Randall wrote:
The current NENA document on policy-based routing only deals with legacy capabilities (that is, call diversion/exception handling). The NENA group intends to produce a version two that covers NG9-1-1 (NENA i3) capabilities with the enhancements for call processing including media and other needs.
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From: ecrit-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org> [ecrit-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org>] on behalf of Hannes Tschofenig [hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net<mailto:hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>]
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:50 AM
To: Gunnar Hellstrom
Cc: ecrit@ietf.org<mailto:ecrit@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comments sought
Hi Gunnar,
that's fine with me but where do you want to add this remark in the
charter text Roger proposed?
Also, do we have any specific document in progress that is impacted by
policy based routing?
Ciao
Hannes
On 13.10.2013 19:37, Gunnar Hellstrom wrote:
Hi,
Policy based routing was once said to enable routing based on for
example media requirements and capabilities to specific PSAPs equipped
or educated for such calls.
In latest NENA spec for policy based routing, only PSAP availability is
mentioned as reason to route.
I do not remember that we have anything sufficiently explicit from IETF
on this topic, and suggest to include it in the goals.
Thanks,
Gunnar
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Gunnar Hellström
Omnitor
gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se<mailto:gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se>
+46708204288
On 2013-10-13 11:59, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
Hi Roger,
thanks for working on the updated charter text.
The text is fine for me; I only have a few minor suggestions.
On 04.10.2013 21:18, Roger Marshall wrote:
The ECRIT working group agreed that the chairs would propose updated
language to the wg charter, along with milestone data changes.
Compare this to the original charter found at:
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/charters.
Please send your comments to the list, whether in favor, or with
alternative wording and/or dates.
Regards,
Roger Marshall/Marc Linsner
ECRIT Chairs
ECRIT charter (w/proposed revisions):
Description of Working Group:
In a number of areas, the public switched telephone network (PSTN) has
been configured to recognize an explicitly specified number (usually
one that is short and easily memorized) as a request for emergency
services. These numbers (e.g., 911, 112) are related to an emergency
service context and depend on a broad, regional configuration of
service contact methods and a geographically-constrained approach for
service delivery. These calls are intended to be delivered to special
call centers equipped to manage emergency response. Successful
delivery of an emergency service call within those systems requires
an association of both the physical location of the originating device
along with appropriate call routing to an emergency service center.
Calls placed using Internet technologies do not use the same systems
Mentioned above to achieve those same goals, and the common use of
overlay networks and tunnels (either as VPNs or for mobility) makes
meeting these goals even more challenging. There are, however,
Internet technologies available to manage location and to perform call
routing. This working group will describe where and how these mechanisms
may be used. The group will show how the availability of location data
and call routing information at different steps in the call session
setup would enable communication between a user and a relevant emergency
response center. Though the term "call routing" is used in this
document,
it should be understood that some of the mechanisms which will be
described might be used to enable other types of media streams. Video
and text messaging, for example, might be used to request emergency
services.
I would omit this last sentence. I also believe that the term
"document" isn't appropriate here.
Beyond human initiated emergency call request mechanisms, this group
will
develop new methods to request emergency assistance, such as sensor
initiated emergency requests, and additional processes specified that
address topics such as authentication of location, service URN
definition
and use, augmented information that could assist emergency call
takers or
responders.
s/"authentication of location"/"trustworthy location"
Explicitly outside the scope of this group is the question of
pre-emption or prioritization of emergency services traffic. This
group is considering emergency services calls which might be made by
any user of the Internet, as opposed to government or military
services that may impose very different authentication and routing
requirements.
While this group anticipates a close working relationship with groups
such as NENA and ETSI EMTEL, any solution presented must be useful
You should add "EENA" and "3GPP" here as well and replace ETSI EMTEL
with "ETSI" since we are now dealing also with other groups in ETSI in
addition to EMTEL.
regardless of jurisdiction, and it must be possible to use without
requiring a
single, central authority. Further, it must be possible for multiple
delegations within a jurisdiction to be handled independently, as call
routing for specific emergency types may be handled independently.
This working group cares about privacy and security concerns, and will
address them within its documents.
Milestones w/revised status/dates, as proposed
Done - Submit 'Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) Callbacks' to the
IESG
for consideration as an Informational RFC
Nov 2013 - Submit 'Trustworthy Location Information' to the IESG for
consideration as an Informational RFC
Dec 2013 - Submit 'Additional Data related to a Call for Emergency Call
Purposes' to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC
Nov 2013 - Submit 'Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) based Data-Only
Emergency Alerts using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' to the
IESG for consideration as an
Experimental RFC
Dec 2013 - Submit 'Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for
dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices' to the IESG for
consideration
I thought that this document has been sent to the IESG already.
as a Standards Track RFC
Dec 2013 - Submit a draft 'Policy for defining new service-identifying
labels' to the IESG for consideration as BCP
Mar 2014 - Submit 'Using Imprecise Location for Emergency Call Routing'
to the IESG for consideration as an Informational RFC
Dec 2013 - Submit a draft 'URN For Country Specific Emergency Services'
to the IESG for consideration as a Standards Track RFC
I believe you should also list all other concluded documents as well
(and mark them as done).
Ciao
Hannes
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- Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comment… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comment… Gunnar Hellstrom
- Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comment… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comment… Gellens, Randall
- Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comment… Gunnar Hellstrom
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- Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comment… Roger Marshall
- Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comment… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comment… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comment… Roger Marshall
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- Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comment… Randall Gellens
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- Re: [Ecrit] Charter & Milestones update - Comment… Roger Marshall
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