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Re: [edu-discuss] Is the EDU team ossified?

SM <sm@resistor.net> Thu, 28 March 2013 05:43 UTC

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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:17:46 -0700
To: Scott O Bradner <sob@sobco.com>, "Moriarty, Kathleen" <kathleen.moriarty@emc.com>
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Subject: Re: [edu-discuss] Is the EDU team ossified?
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Hi Scott,
At 07:55 27-03-2013, Scott O Bradner wrote:
>fwiw - people do come up to me during the week to thank me for the 
>newcomers presentation
>and to say that it had been helpful - maybe the people who think it 
>is boring are polite
>enough to not say so

If I were to take a survey I would rate the newcomers presentation as 
helpful and assume that I have to learn all of that before I can do 
anything in the IETF.

What puzzles me is that there hasn't been any feedback over the years 
about how to improve the orientation.  I haven't see any "excuse me, 
I did not understand X" question afterwards (I am ignoring immediate 
feedback after the orientation).  I looked at the 1st-timers mailing 
list archive for the two last meetings.  There wasn't any newcomer activity.

This is a general comment.  Is there an expectation that the process 
should as difficult for the new people as it was for those who went 
through that before?  What is the purpose of the newcomers orientation?

Regards,
-sm

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