Re: [edu-discuss] Is the EDU team ossified?

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 03 April 2013 07:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [edu-discuss] Is the EDU team ossified?
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On 02/04/2013 19:20, Spencer Dawkins wrote:
> On 4/2/2013 8:18 AM, Mary Barnes wrote:
>> SM,
>>
>> Why don't you write a draft that discusses the issues you are seeing,
>> along with ideas on how to solve them?
> 
> This sounds like a good idea.
> 
>> It seems you think that the
>> Tao and newcomer's training are not at all adequate.
> 
> At least on the newcomer's training, I thought I was hearing that the
> newcomer's training wasn't inadequate, just that it might be more
> comprehensive than someone attending their first IETF meeting might need
> (or be able to absorb).

Maybe, but since people come to the IETF for technical reasons, I think
it would be very hard to get them to attend an "elementary" newcomers
talk and then come back later for an "advanced" talk. Having given that
tutorial once or twice, I agree that it's *very* busy - but it's also very
hard to find anything in it that participants don't need to know at
an early stage.

    Brian

> 
> I know I hope that most IETF participants pick up what's in the
> newcomer's training, and sooner is probably better than later - only
> that they might not need to pick it up before the 9 AM Monday session
> starts :-)
> 
> Spencer
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