Re: [Efficientnd-dt] 6man IETF 92 Call for agenda items

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Wed, 11 March 2015 16:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Efficientnd-dt] 6man IETF 92 Call for agenda items
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Erik,

Will do.

Thanks,
Bob

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Erik Nordmark <nordmark@sonic.net> wrote:
> 
> On 3/10/15 11:16 PM, Bob Hinden wrote:
>> 
>> Good.  Are there other drafts we should show in the agenda.
> Bob,
> 
> Wouldn't hurt to list the draft-nordmark-6man-dad-approaches-00 draft in the agenda, since that might make some more folks read it before the meeting.
> 
> How about listing that under the DAD issues agenda slot together with draft-yourtchenko-6man-dad-issues-01 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yourtchenko-6man-dad-issues-01>.
> 
> Thanks,
>   Erik
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> 
>>>   Erik
>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Erik Nordmark <nordmark@acm.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/10/15 1:31 PM, Ole Troan wrote:
>>>>>> Erik,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also noticed draft-nordmark-6man-dad-approaches-00 is that something you’ll want to cover?
>>>>> I/we can mention it briefly as part of the dad-issues slot. But it is more important to gauge what the WG thinks need to be improved with DAD first. Solution discussion should wait until after that.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> right now we have 15 minutes reserved for each of.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> alternatively consider it a 30 minute session that you can split whichever way you like.
>>>>> Some text missing above. I assume the dad-issues and rs-refresh is what you meant by "each of".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>   Erik
>>>>> 
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 04 Mar 2015, at 2:05 , Erik Nordmark <nordmark@acm.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/3/15 6:09 AM, Ole Troan wrote:
>>>>>>>> Erik,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Did you add two requests to the queue?
>>>>>>>>> One was for draft-nordmark-6man-rs-refresh and a separate one for draft-yourtchenko-6man-dad-issues?
>>>>>>>>> Either Andrew will present the second one remotely, or I can do it on site.
>>>>>>>> yes, thank you those are added.
>>>>>>>> 15 minutes each. alternatively we make a design team session like we did last time?
>>>>>>> Better to keep them separate. They are both merely(?) outgrowths of the DT work.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Erik
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 21:03 , Erik Nordmark <nordmark@acm.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> As part of the efficient-nd report in HNL we mentioned two drafts but they were not discussed at any depth:
>>>>>>>>>>> draft-yourtchenko-6man-dad-issues and draft-nordmark-6man-rs-refresh
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would make sense for Andrew to present the first one (he is cc'ed); including that request here to reserve some time on the agenda while we determine whether this is needed.
>>>>>>>>>>> The purpose of such a presentation would be to get an answer to what the WG wants to do about DAD. (See my reminder to the list today.)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> draft-nordmark-6man-rs-refresh received some positive feedback in the room. I think a presentation + question whether to make it a WG draft makes sense. While the presentation can be short - 3-4 slides of substance might do it - it would be good to  time for discussion around making it a WG draft. So 15 minutes might be a reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>   Erik
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/17/15 6:42 AM, Ole Troan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have asked for a two and a half hour slot in Dallas for the 6MAN working group.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have a draft you would like to discuss, please send your request for agenda time to the 6man chairs.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please include in the request, the title and file name of the draft, the speakers name (and email),
>>>>>>>>>>>> and how much time you need.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> We will prioritise drafts that are working group items and drafts that have been actively discussed on the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> We expect at least half the presentation time to be used for open discussion,
>>>>>>>>>>>> please plan your presentation accordingly.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> New drafts not discussed on the mailing list prior to the meeting,
>>>>>>>>>>>> or drafts that do not appear to have support from the working group are unlikely to get time at the meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please have agenda items to us by 2015-03-09 and also note the draft deadline for IETF92:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-09 (Monday): Internet Draft submission cut-off (for all drafts, including -00) by UTC 23:59
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob & Ole
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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