Re: [Efficientnd-dt] 6man IETF 92 Call for agenda items

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Wed, 11 March 2015 06:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Efficientnd-dt] 6man IETF 92 Call for agenda items
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Erik,

> On Mar 10, 2015, at 9:47 PM, Erik Nordmark <nordmark@sonic.net> wrote:
> 
> On 3/10/15 5:37 PM, Bob Hinden wrote:
>> Eric,
>> 
>> Check the agenda we posted at:
>> 
>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/agenda/agenda-92-6man
>> 
>> Let us know how you would like to change it.
> That's fine.
> 
> We should be able to include at least a reference to dad-approaches in the dad issues slot.

Good.  Are there other drafts we should show in the agenda.

Thanks,
Bob

> 
>   Erik
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Erik Nordmark <nordmark@acm.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 3/10/15 1:31 PM, Ole Troan wrote:
>>>> Erik,
>>>> 
>>>> I also noticed draft-nordmark-6man-dad-approaches-00 is that something you’ll want to cover?
>>> I/we can mention it briefly as part of the dad-issues slot. But it is more important to gauge what the WG thinks need to be improved with DAD first. Solution discussion should wait until after that.
>>> 
>>>> right now we have 15 minutes reserved for each of.
>>>> 
>>>> alternatively consider it a 30 minute session that you can split whichever way you like.
>>> Some text missing above. I assume the dad-issues and rs-refresh is what you meant by "each of".
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>>   Erik
>>> 
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Ole
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 04 Mar 2015, at 2:05 , Erik Nordmark <nordmark@acm.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/3/15 6:09 AM, Ole Troan wrote:
>>>>>> Erik,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Did you add two requests to the queue?
>>>>>>> One was for draft-nordmark-6man-rs-refresh and a separate one for draft-yourtchenko-6man-dad-issues?
>>>>>>> Either Andrew will present the second one remotely, or I can do it on site.
>>>>>> yes, thank you those are added.
>>>>>> 15 minutes each. alternatively we make a design team session like we did last time?
>>>>> Better to keep them separate. They are both merely(?) outgrowths of the DT work.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Erik
>>>>> 
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 21:03 , Erik Nordmark <nordmark@acm.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As part of the efficient-nd report in HNL we mentioned two drafts but they were not discussed at any depth:
>>>>>>>>> draft-yourtchenko-6man-dad-issues and draft-nordmark-6man-rs-refresh
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think it would make sense for Andrew to present the first one (he is cc'ed); including that request here to reserve some time on the agenda while we determine whether this is needed.
>>>>>>>>> The purpose of such a presentation would be to get an answer to what the WG wants to do about DAD. (See my reminder to the list today.)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> draft-nordmark-6man-rs-refresh received some positive feedback in the room. I think a presentation + question whether to make it a WG draft makes sense. While the presentation can be short - 3-4 slides of substance might do it - it would be good to  time for discussion around making it a WG draft. So 15 minutes might be a reasonable.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>   Erik
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2/17/15 6:42 AM, Ole Troan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> We have asked for a two and a half hour slot in Dallas for the 6MAN working group.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If you have a draft you would like to discuss, please send your request for agenda time to the 6man chairs.
>>>>>>>>>> Please include in the request, the title and file name of the draft, the speakers name (and email),
>>>>>>>>>> and how much time you need.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We will prioritise drafts that are working group items and drafts that have been actively discussed on the list.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We expect at least half the presentation time to be used for open discussion,
>>>>>>>>>> please plan your presentation accordingly.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> New drafts not discussed on the mailing list prior to the meeting,
>>>>>>>>>> or drafts that do not appear to have support from the working group are unlikely to get time at the meeting.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please have agenda items to us by 2015-03-09 and also note the draft deadline for IETF92:
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-09 (Monday): Internet Draft submission cut-off (for all drafts, including -00) by UTC 23:59
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Bob & Ole
>>>>>>>>>> 
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