Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Review of draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-06

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 29 October 2020 22:22 UTC

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Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
    >> Yes, or, what I would really like, some sense of how active someone
    >> has been in working group discussions.  But I know how bad the results
    >> are likely to be if we key any of this on posting to mailing lists.

    > I think that really isn’t a foregone conclusion. People suggest that
    > there will be an influx of new garbage postings if we make this the
    > rule, but I suspect that’s not at all the case. As an experiment, I
    > think it would make a lot of sense to test this hypothesis. We could
    > tie it to the datatracker to keep people honest: if you have an email
    > address, you can claim it by creating a datatracker login, and then we
    > can correlate addresses between mailing lists and the datatracker
    > database. Still definitely gameable, but how serious of a risk is that?
    > If we did this as an experiment for a year, we’d find out, and could
    > easily stop doing it if it turned out to /actually/ cause a problem.

This is definitely the kind of data collection experiment that we should do.

We need to tell people about this, because it might be important for people
to know that from date X, if your ML posting address is not listed as an alias
in the DT, then your posting won't get counted.  So, please go fix your DT
entries.

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