Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Questions about I* bodies removing their own membership

[S Moonesamy <[e-mail]>]

Hi John,
At 11:41 AM 29-10-2019, John C Klensin wrote:
>Hi.  I've been thinking about the idea of the I* bodies being
>able to remove one of their own members and how to combine that
>with adequate safeguards.  Let me make a specific suggestion to
>see if it gets enough traction for me to draft some text that
>could be dropped into the "equity" I-D.
>
>Suppose we followed the example already set by the ombudsteam
>and allowed those bodies, perhaps even by a simply majority
>vote, to initiate a recall process, bypassing the petition
>process.  The rest of the recall process would run normally
>(modulo any changes we might make in the future).
>
>Would that be sufficient and mitigate at least most of the
>concerns?

I'll use the IETF Trust as an example as the focus has been on the 
IESG instead of all the bodies which has nomcom-appointees.

Let's say that a majority of IETF trustees vote to recall one of the 
trustees.  The  Recall Committee does not get the 3/4 majority to 
recall that trustee.  This is where things can get awkward as you 
already have a majority of the trustees formally agreeing that one of 
them has to be recalled.

I'll comment about the IETF LLC.  Let's say that one of its directors 
does not attend several meetings.  As there aren't any attendance 
rules for that body, should that person be recalled?

An investigation is unnecessary if the starting point is a 
presumption of guilt.  That is what could happen once you (used in 
general) take a formal decision early in the process.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy