Re: [Eligibility-discuss] ISE vs IETF Stream RFCs for Path 3

[Michael Richardson <[e-mail]>]

Adrian Farrel <[e-mail]> wrote:
    > And on another point. The front page debate is painful. It is often the
    > case that one or two people have to step back from the front page,
    > allowing themselves to be listed as Contributors. They usually do this
    > with good grace notwithstanding the "loss" of association with the
    > document. Now we are giving them another reason to push back.

There are two kinds of Contributors now, btw.

There are those listed in the Acknowledgments or Contributions section in
english.  And there are those listed in the XML.  The XML hasn't been used
much to date, (and might even be absent from the v2, I don't know,didn't check),
but it is now quite easy to move an author from authors: yaml section in
kramdown to contributors section.

<NOHATS>
I've been pushing for sometime to make the XML-Contributors section better
used, specifically because of the ability to mechanically pull them out, and
potentially list them in a path-3-like process.

    > And another point: *all* the names on the front page of an IETF RFC are
    > at the discretion of the WG chairs. While this is largely a theoretical
    > point, it does happen that chairs appoint a single editor to go on the
    > front page, moving everyone else to be Contributors.

Yes.  And that's exactly where I want the XML-Contributors to be used, and
where I'd like Path 3 to consider that.  I don't mind if the threshold is higher.

    > We have a severe case of unintended consequences here. The cause is
    > trying to assign a qualitative measure of IETF participation without
    > understanding that this might motivate other behaviours.

    > Frankly, if we are going to count remote attendance at IETF meetings
    > (registration and payment/waiver) then RFC authorship is not important
    > enough to include as a mechanisms.

?- I wonder if there are some words confused here.



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