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Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "bogus" recall petitions

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 28 October 2019 15:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "bogus" recall petitions
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S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:
    >> Section 2.2 about Remote Participants tells me nothing about how the
    >> criteria would apply.  Registered remotely... but did they pick up
    >> their badge?  (Because I think the secretariat removes people from the
    >> list who didn't show up in person)

    > The IETF 105 attendance list has 861 remote participants.  The list is
    > probably incorrect as there isn't a last name or first name for Row 1.
    > It should be possible to get a list of remote attendees from Meetecho.
    > Are there "blue sheets" for remote participants?

1) You can participate on Meetecho without registered.
   (I guess we agree that they don't count)

2) You can register as a remote an never join a single Meetecho.

3) You can register as a remote user, but then not login to Meetecho, and
   then you won't get counted as attendee.

I would think that the official list would be the one from the secretariat.
If we are going to do all this work, then let's do it for the selection
commitee too.

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
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