Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Discussion at gendispatch?

"Pete Resnick" <resnick@episteme.net> Thu, 07 November 2019 12:39 UTC

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From: Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>
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Subject: Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Discussion at gendispatch?
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On 6 Nov 2019, at 19:19, John C Klensin wrote:

> --On Wednesday, November 6, 2019 18:12 -0600 Pete Resnick
> <resnick@episteme.net> wrote:
>
>> On 6 Nov 2019, at 15:21, John C Klensin wrote:
>>
>>> Pete,
>>>
>>> This is fine with me with, as is my wont, a few qualifications
>>> and concerns:
>>>
>>> (1) It seems to me that the call and the (very few) email
>>> notes that followed suggested some changes we might want to
>>> make in the document.  I don't think we are even close to
>>> consensus on them but, if we are going to reopen the
>>> discussion in a different forum, I think it would be very
>>> helpful to put discussion placeholders in the document.
>>
>> It would be fine to put placeholders in the document, but I'm
>> inclined not to "reopen the discussion in a different forum".
>> That is, the purpose of gendispatch is to dispatch: Do a short
>> review of the issues that are open, get a sense on the amount
>> of work required to move it forward (if at all), and recommend
>> whether to form a WG, have it AD sponsored, etc. In
>> particular, gendispatch has no charter to "get the work done",
>> so the only thing getting such a list into the document will
>> do is give a better idea as to how to handle the document. (Of
>> course, when we discuss such things, people are bound to ask
>> questions and discuss some of the issues in the document, but
>> the plan is to keep that discussion very limited.)
>>
>> Whether the below should go into the document are entirely for
>> a discussion on this list.
>
> That is more or less exactly what I hoped you would say.  I
> think it makes an gendispatch presentation or discussion
> informational, not a request for action from that group.  Right?

Well, the only actions gendispatch can ever take are to say that the 
work should go to a WG, or AD sponsored, etc. I expect that gendispatch 
might take such an action if it has enough information, and I think that 
Alissa and Barry would like to hear the opinion of gendispatch on that. 
But it surely isn't doing any of the work on the content of the 
document.

pr
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