Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-moonesamy-recall-rev
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Tue, 11 June 2019 11:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-moonesamy-recall-rev
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H/mm.. These don't seem like "issues" so much as restatements of the solution SM's draft proposes. To take a specific one, what issue is addressed by reducing the number of people required to sign the petition? -Ekr On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 4:22 AM Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote: > That's nice. I like the clarity. > > I also like that the worms are kept firmly in their cans. It is without > doubt that a hundred other issues concerning the recall process could be > aired, and I am certain that many people have different hot issues. But I > firmly believe that addressing a few at a time is the best (only!) way to > make progress. > > If it turns out that there is support for resolving any of these three > issues, they can be quickly picked off and we can move on to other issues > if > there is interest. If there is no support for addressing these three > concerns, then they can be put to one side and work can start on other > issues if there is interest. > > For my part, I think that all three issues should be addressed, and I think > that the approaches suggested in SM's draft are a good starting point for > discussion. > > Thanks, > Adrian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eligibility-discuss <eligibility-discuss-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf > Of S Moonesamy > Sent: 11 June 2019 11:45 > To: Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>; > eligibility-discuss@ietf.org > Cc: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>; Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>; > Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> > Subject: Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for > draft-moonesamy-recall-rev > > Hi Suresh, > > Please see a revised version of the BOF proposal to address your comments: > > Problem statement > > The current description of the process for initiating petitions > for recalls > for NomCom-appointed roles is described in RFC 7437 and is > being updated in > draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc7437bis. The scope of this work addresses only > three > specific issues with the petition process; other parts of the > recall model > and other ways of removing Nomcom-appointees are explicitly out of > scope. > > The three issues are: > > - Ineligibility of remote participants to seek redress through the > recall process; > > - Reducing the number of signatories for a recall petition; > > - Ineligibility of IAB and IESG Members and other Nomcom > Appointees to sign a recall petition. > > The purpose of the BOF is to examine the above-mentioned issues and > determine, > for each, whether it is sufficient interest and importance. > draft-moonesamy-recall-rev > is a possible starting point for the effort. > > Regards, > S. Moonesamy > > -- > Eligibility-discuss mailing list > Eligibility-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eligibility-discuss > > -- > Eligibility-discuss mailing list > Eligibility-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eligibility-discuss >
- [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-moone… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Eliot Lear (elear)
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Eliot Lear (elear)
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… John C Klensin
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… John C Klensin
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… John C Klensin
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… John C Klensin
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Patrick McManus
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… John C Klensin
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Patrick McManus
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Virtual BoF for draft-m… John C Klensin