Re: [Emailcore] encodings, was Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review different size limits
Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu> Mon, 19 July 2021 13:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Emailcore] encodings, was Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review different size limits
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John Levine wrote in <20210717221703.0CBF924AABD7@ary.qy>: |It appears that Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu> said: |>Jeremy Harris wrote in |> <7167164a-5c14-f6f2-4692-06da2506d158@wizmail.org>: |>|On 17/07/2021 17:16, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |>|> Your MUA created the according MIME headers, but whether it used |>|> the 8BITMIME SMTP extension when passing this over to a MTA, that |>|> is here the question. |>| |>|See https://cr.yp.to/smtp/8bitmime.html for one opinion, written quite |>|a long time ago. Exim has been following that for the last nine years. |> |>I have to say i never quite understood the "an email message must |>be human readable text" approach. | |djb wrote that in 1998 when MUAs that support MIME were a lot less \ |ubiquitous |than they are now, and I don't know anyone who objects to base64 encoding |of PDFs and JPEGs. But 7bit MTAs were gone in 1998 and they're even more |gone now so there is no point in encoding anything that is an 8 bit \ |extended |ASCII like UTF-8 or ISO-8859-x. Well the paper may have inspired people to try out and use pure 8-bit paths for good twenty years ago. ..and of course except message generators have to because of the constraints (length limits, ^From_, invalid bytes) which do exist. And attachments / signatures and massive header pollution also make a raw internet message unpleasant to look at. So but for debugging maybe any desire or even praising of message/global seemed a bit artificial to me. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
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- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Todd Herr
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Michael Peddemors
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] encodings, was Ticket #14: G.7.8.… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] encodings, was Ticket #14: G.7.8.… Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #14: G.7.8. Review differe… Gene Hightower