[Emailcore] RESOLVED: Ticket #43: G.13. Deprecating HELO
Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> Tue, 19 January 2021 15:41 UTC
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 15:41:17 +0000
From: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>
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Subject: [Emailcore] RESOLVED: Ticket #43: G.13. Deprecating HELO
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Hi all, [Top post] I changed the subject for ease of searching. As per discussion, I propose to resolve this ticket as "no change". Best Regards, Alexey On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, at 8:24 PM, John C Klensin wrote: > > > --On Friday, December 18, 2020 17:47 +0000 Alexey Melnikov > <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > >> On Fri 18/Dec/2020 02:24:26 +0100 John R Levine wrote: > >> > On Thu, 17 Dec 2020, Ned Freed wrote: > >> >> There's still quite a few HELO's being sent by IOT stuff > >> >> that supports email. And I can understand why - when every > >> >> byte counts, code to fall back from EHLO to HELO isn't > >> >> going to be written. > >> > > >> > Is that SMTP or submission? I think we will continue to > >> > tolerate a lot more sloppiness in submission than in SMTP > >> > relay. > >> > >> > >> What is going to be gained by not tolerating HELO on port 25 > >> any more? The server code is not going to shrink > >> considerably, especially if the same code also supports port > >> 587. > >> > >> Sometimes I use HELO for a quick test with telnet[*] if for > >> some reason I don't want the terminal window to scroll by > >> the amount of lines that EHLO responses imply. > > > > [As a participant] > > > > For reasons stated by Alessandro and Ned I have a weak > > preference to leave HELO as is in rfc5321bis. > > (As a participant and for the same reasons) > I share that preference > > (And, as author) > I recommend that the bar for making substantive changes, even > to drop things previously required or allowed, should be fairly > high. My inclusion of that item was because I found it in my > notes from prior suggestions and comments; it was not a > recommendation for any particular action. > > john
- [Emailcore] Two extra issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues John R Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] RESOLVED: Ticket #43: G.13. Deprecati… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] RESOLVED: Ticket #43: G.13. Depre… Alessandro Vesely