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Subject: Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues
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On 1/6/2021 9:07 AM, John Levine wrote: > In article <9f27f29f-2b4e-57ad-3d54-c2a5e04d8c62@tana.it> you write: >> This discussion brought up another defect of RFC 5321, methinks. It does not >> define a straight line between an MTA and an MDA. ... > > I think the problem is worse than that. What we're calling an MDA > combines two separate things. RFC 5598 calls them the hMDA and rMDA. > > The hMDA is more or less the thing that takes an incoming message and > disposes of it, by storing it in a file or otherwise. Most MTAs have a > few simple default hMDA and ways to call out to more complex ones > like procmail, maildrop, and Sieve. > > I don't see any point in trying to rewrite 5321 to try to separate out > an hMDA that might be in the MTA and might not. For the purposes of 5321bis, the hMDA/rMDA distinction is almost certainly overly precise. It distinguishes between two components within a functional unit. What's needed for the bis document is merely to slightly modify the current language to add MDA language and citation, rather than to do any substantial rewriting. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
- [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John R Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John R Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John R. Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issu… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issu… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issu… John R Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issu… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issue Claus Assmann
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issu… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issues) John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… John R Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Brandon Long