Re: [eman] 2nd try: Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Bruce Nordman <bnordman@lbl.gov> Wed, 13 May 2015 16:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [eman] 2nd try: Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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I do agree with deleting them.
I don't agree they are out of scope, but if not in the doc, then doesn't
matter.
Thanks,
--Bruce

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) <
moulchan@cisco.com> wrote:

>  Hi  Brad,
>
>  I had replied earlier  that the EMAN use cases were compiled based on
> several WG meetings and comments or feedback on the email list.
>
>  The feedback from Pete Resnick  was that the the specific use cases in
> question,  were not addressed in EMAN, and hence either mention "out of
> scope" or delete them.
>
>  As suggested by Pete, we can mention that those use cases are out of
> scope.
>
>  Thanks
> Mouli
>
>
>
>   From: Brad Schoening <brad.schoening@verizon.net>
> Date: Tuesday, 12 May 2015 9:02 AM
> To: "eman@ietf.org" <eman@ietf.org>rg>, Mouli Chandramouli <
> moulchan@cisco.com>
> Subject: 2nd try: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on
> draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
>
>   Hi Mouli,
>
> Just wondering if you plan further updates to the applicability statement
> draft responding to the concerns raised, or if you would be ok deleting
> these specific use cases as not really being unique and non-overlapping.
>
> Regards,
>
> Brad
>
> On 4/26/2015 11:01 PM, Brad Schoening wrote:
>
> Mouli,
>
> Your comments address the intent for adding these use cases, but they
> don't respond to the critique of them, and therefore don't justify them.
> Can you please respond to Pete & Alissa's questions.  Otherwise, let's
> delete them as Bruce & I have suggested.
>
> Regards,
>
> Brad
>
> On 4/23/2015 9:45 PM, Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) wrote:
>
> Hi  Brian,
>
>  Some of the specific use cases, you are referring had been provided as
> feedback to WG (email or meetings)  when the draft was draft was presented.
> It was felt that it would be useful  "unique, non-overlapping" set of use
> cases (scenarios) of interest to energy management.
> It may be that after the other MIB drafts have evolved over the years, it
> may be that we solve only a subset of use cases.
>
>  Thanks
> Mouli
>
>
>
>
>   From: Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>
> Date: Thursday, 23 April 2015 4:35 AM
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> Subject: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on
> draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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> DISCUSS:
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>
>  The draft still calls out some use cases that appear out of scope,
> especially after the discussion around the EMAN MIB document. This
> DISCUSS is a placeholder to address one of the author's suggestion to
> delete: 1) the use cases in section 2.7 last paragraph (net-zero
> building), 2) 2.12 (off-grid devices), and 3) 2.14 (power capping).
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>  Thank you for addressing the issue of the document's status.
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