Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-08: (with DISCUSS)
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Wed, 17 December 2014 12:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-08: (with DISCUSS)
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On 17/12/2014 13:44, Brian Haberman wrote: > Hi Benoit, > > On 12/17/14 4:55 AM, Benoit Claise wrote: >> Hi Brian, >> >> [including the document authors, and the mailing list. An issue with the >> "send-notices-to" has been corrected in the tracker] >> See in-line. >>> Brian Haberman has entered the following ballot position for >>> draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-08: Discuss >>> >>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this >>> introductory paragraph, however.) >>> >>> >>> Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >>> >>> >>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> DISCUSS: >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> I need someone to provide some clarity on this document. It calls itself >>> an applicability statement, but is categorized as Informational. An IETF >>> applicability statement is supposed to be a standards track document. >> I was able to track the source of confusion. >> From the charter milestones: >> Jun 2013 Submit Internet draft on Energy Management Applicability >> for publication as Informational RFC >> >> So the authors followed this guideline. >> You are right about standards track, >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-3, and to be candid, I forgot >> about that RFC 2026. Shame on me, I know :-), since I was the EMAN AD at >> some point in time. > So, if you want to call it an Applicability Statement, the Last Call > will need to be run again at the higher standards level. Understood. This is Joel's decision, as the responsible AD. Regards, B. > >>> However, this document reads more like a combination of use cases and >>> requirements. If it is really meant to be an AS, then we need to >>> re-start the process and issue a new last call as a standards track >>> document. If it is meant to be more requirements and use cases, the text >>> should be updated to stricken the mention of applicability statement >>> throughout. >> This is the last document in the WG, and its goal is AS, not requirements. >> Requirements was RFC 6988. > See above. > > Regards, > Brian >
- Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf… Benoit Claise
- Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf… Brian Haberman
- Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf… Benoit Claise
- Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf… joel jaeggli