Re: [eman] draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-03

Hi Brad,

Ah - I see (I think) - I was thinking about the implementation guidelines
(for MIBs or
other bindings of the EMAN Model).

I agree that Applicability for the external standards and EMAN use cases
seems
to be an obscure use of the word Applicability.

I'd prefer a different title, such as "EMAN Framework Standards Context".

And a second "EMAN MIBs Implementation Guide" document.

Does that make sense?

Cheers,
- Ira

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On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Brad Schoening <brads@coraid.com> wrote:

>   Ira,
>
>  The root of the issue is that the "Applicability Statement" begin as a
> companion documents to the EMAN Framework addressing the applicability of
> other standards and information models w.r.t. the EMAN framework.   Since
> then, use cases have also been added to the Applicability Statement
> document.
>
>  Use of the name 'Applicability' has lead to confusion that this document
> will also provide implementation guidelines and best practices. While such
> a document would be valuable, its not clear how it relates to abstract use
> cases and international and national standards bodies.
>
>  The Abstract of the Applicability statement claims:
>
>  	Abstract
>
>         The objective of Energy Management (EMAN)is to provide an energy
>         management framework for networked devices. This document
>         presents the applicability of the EMAN framework for a variety
>         of scenarios. This document lists use cases and target devices
>         that can potentially implement the EMAN framework and associated
>         SNMP MIB modules. These use cases are useful for identifying
>         monitoring requirements that need to be considered. Further, we
>         describe the relationship of the EMAN framework to relevant
>
> other energy monitoring standards and architectures.
>
>  So, it might be more useful to think of this as the EMAN Framework
> Applicability Statement vs. an EMAN MIB Applicability/Implementation Guide.
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Brad
>
>  *Brad Schoening*
> Engineering | Coraid
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>
>
>   From: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:02:59 -0400
> To: "Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)" <moulchan@cisco.com>, Ira McDonald <
> blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
> Cc: "eman@ietf.org" <eman@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [eman] draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-03
>
>    Hi Mouli,
>
>  I prefer a single Applicability Statement - simpler for implementors and
>  avoids inconsistencies between two documents.
>
>  Cheers,
>  - Ira
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) <
> moulchan@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hello all,
>>
>>  We are working on updating the  draft Applicability Statement draft
>> before this IETF meeting.
>>
>>  We would like to get the input of the WG on a coupe of important
>> points.
>>
>>  Currently, the EMAN Applicability Statement draft as it stands
>>  contains – use cases and relation standards;  and does not have a
>> discussion of how the technologies developed in EMAN WG – EMAN Framework,
>> MIB modules can be implemented.
>>
>>  Should this draft be split in to two drafts  -  (1) use cases and
>> related standards  (2)  Applicability of EMAN Framework
>>
>>  or  a consolidated Applicability statement draft which contains a
>> section of how the Framework can be applied.
>>
>>  Please provide your thoughts.
>>
>>  Thanks
>>  Mouli
>>
>>
>>
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