Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-08: (with DISCUSS)
Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> Wed, 17 December 2014 12:45 UTC
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 07:44:52 -0500
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Subject: Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-08: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Benoit, On 12/17/14 4:55 AM, Benoit Claise wrote: > Hi Brian, > > [including the document authors, and the mailing list. An issue with the > "send-notices-to" has been corrected in the tracker] > See in-line. >> Brian Haberman has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-08: Discuss >> >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this >> introductory paragraph, however.) >> >> >> Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >> >> >> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement/ >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> DISCUSS: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> I need someone to provide some clarity on this document. It calls itself >> an applicability statement, but is categorized as Informational. An IETF >> applicability statement is supposed to be a standards track document. > I was able to track the source of confusion. > From the charter milestones: > Jun 2013 Submit Internet draft on Energy Management Applicability > for publication as Informational RFC > > So the authors followed this guideline. > You are right about standards track, > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-3, and to be candid, I forgot > about that RFC 2026. Shame on me, I know :-), since I was the EMAN AD at > some point in time. So, if you want to call it an Applicability Statement, the Last Call will need to be run again at the higher standards level. > >> However, this document reads more like a combination of use cases and >> requirements. If it is really meant to be an AS, then we need to >> re-start the process and issue a new last call as a standards track >> document. If it is meant to be more requirements and use cases, the text >> should be updated to stricken the mention of applicability statement >> throughout. > This is the last document in the WG, and its goal is AS, not requirements. > Requirements was RFC 6988. See above. Regards, Brian
- Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf… Benoit Claise
- Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf… Brian Haberman
- Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf… Benoit Claise
- Re: [eman] Brian Haberman's Discuss on draft-ietf… joel jaeggli