[EME] transport recovery at the APP layer ?
Rémi Després <remi.despres@wanadoo.fr> Wed, 15 November 2006 17:00 UTC
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Joe Touch wrote : > It'd be useful to decide whether recovery includes the assumption that > the app layer will reconnect and restore E2E context. If that's > _assumed_ here, it'd be a first IMO. > > Joe This is IMO an important question. We agree, I believe, that forbidding middleboxes that do some transport relaying is unrealistic. (In other words, for the real world Internet,.the EME model must be accepted in addition to the E2E one.) Then, there seems to be no simpler place, to recover from transport relay failures, than just above the transport layer.. It is thus not a surprise that real applications, that had to adapt to the real transport world with no extra layer between transport and themselves, already have that recovery mechanism. It would indeed be a first _as an recognized model_, but AFAIK not in implemented code. RD
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