Re: [EME] EME charter
Yangwoo Ko <newcat@icu.ac.kr> Mon, 13 November 2006 06:03 UTC
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Joe Touch wrote: > > Tilman Wolf wrote: > ... >> The EME charter can be found at >> http://irtf.org/charter?gtype=rg&group=eme . The goal of our research >> group is to explore issues related to "middleboxes," i.e., devices that >> are placed inside the network along the end-to-end communication path. >> Our next immediate milestones are to develop an applicability statement >> followed by a design choices document. > > Some feedback on the charter. It talks about middleboxes that endpoints > don't know about, as if the endpoint is the problem. > > Problem-causing middleboxes don't *want* to be found; they want to be > "transparent". > > Resolving - or prohibiting - that transparency should be included and > addressed. > > Joe I agree with the argument that "transparency" is problematic. By the way, if they are not transparent, why should we call them as "middleboxes" ? Aren't they just end-points? It seems to be necessary to differentiate middleboxes that are well identified and explicitly exploited by end-points and that are trying to be transparent. Regards _______________________________________________ EME mailing list EME@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eme
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- Re: [EME] EME charter Fergie
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- Re: [EME] EME charter Fergie
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- Re: [EME] EME charter Melinda Shore
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- Re: [EME] EME charter Joe Touch
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