RE: [EME] The virtual circuit trap mentioned in the EME charter - need for clarification

"Paul Francis" <francis@cs.cornell.edu> Tue, 14 November 2006 13:22 UTC

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My interpretation of that sentence is that, in the signaling protocols we
design, we should minimize the number of machines that need to get involved
in the repair of a failure.  Mark Handley may have some additional
interpretation.

NATs are worse than VCs...there are some failures they can't recover from,
period.

PF

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rémi Després [mailto:remi.despres@rd-iptech.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:45 AM
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Subject: [EME] The virtual circuit trap mentioned in the EME charter - need
for clarification

The EME charter seems to me very pertinent, and I like its clarification of
some real problems.
Although I have been involved in Internet protocols for years, and have been
active in the 70s.on virtual circuits (by the way operational worldwide, and
very successful, in the 80s-early 90s), I don't understand the sentence of
the charter: which says "Candidate protocols should avoid falling into the
virtual circuit trap, where routers  lose the ability to remedy failures
locally".

Could anyone, clarify what is meant?

In particular,: is it understood that NATs have fallen into that trap, or
have avoided it ?

Thanks.

Rémi Després


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