Re: [Emo-dir] [edu-team] Educational RFCs
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Subject: Re: [Emo-dir] [edu-team] Educational RFCs
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Greetings, Certainly, we are still working on this. Last year, it went very well, and our students were very interested in this exercise and got a real handle on being able to read a very simple protocol, written with the IETF format and of course using the necessary tools (xml2rfc + ipnits, etc.). We got some pretty good results. We are going to make the same exercise this year as well, so yes, we are interested in this work. Regards, Evangelos Haleplidis. From: Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> Sent: Τρίτη, 12 Απριλίου 2022 00:00 To: ehalep@gmail.com; emo-dir@ietf.org Cc: arouskas@unipi.gr Subject: Re: [edu-team] Educational RFCs Hi there. Resurrecting this. Sorry for the nearly-a-year without any reply (that I saw). Are you still interested in talking about this? From: "ehalep@gmail.com <mailto:ehalep@gmail.com> " <ehalep@gmail.com <mailto:ehalep@gmail.com> > Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:34 AM To: "edu-team@ietf.org <mailto:edu-team@ietf.org> " <edu-team@ietf.org <mailto:edu-team@ietf.org> > Cc: "arouskas@unipi.gr <mailto:arouskas@unipi.gr> " <arouskas@unipi.gr <mailto:arouskas@unipi.gr> > Subject: [edu-team] Educational RFCs Greetings to the edu-team, Apologies if this has already been discussed in the past. I searched the mail archives as much as possible but couldn’t find anything similar. On a course on Internet Protocols at the University of Piraeus (https://www.ds.unipi.gr/en/courses/internet-protocols-2/ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ds.unipi.gr/en/courses/internet-protocols-2/__;!!GjvTz_vk!FNjdXWW-z2O0oRcqs5NHzw7BKpHkU-zibDjgXW4k6RiiXACeQ0fRx9EFLZx6$> ), Professor Rouskas and I, have begun a series of laboratory exercises where we want our students to become adept at being able to read and implement internet protocol specification documents, specifically from the IETF. With that goal in mind, we wrote a small IETF-like draft (using xml2rfc) where we outlined a very simple protocol in detail and asked them to read and implement it. That got us thinking whether it makes sense for the IETF and specifically for the edu-team to create a series of educational RFCs with the goal of providing material for Universities for preparing students/future-engineers to be ready to participate in the IETF. We do understand that this is not the current focus of the edu-team and the IETF in particular, but we were thinking whether it makes sense to expand the charter to allow creating short introductory RFCs, where attendees/students could be introduced into reading and understanding specs at a smaller scale. Regards, Evangelos Haleplidis.