Re: [Emu] POST WGLC Comments draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13

John Mattsson <john.mattsson@ericsson.com> Fri, 20 September 2019 10:41 UTC

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From: John Mattsson <john.mattsson@ericsson.com>
To: Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com>, "draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13@ietf.org>, EMU WG <emu@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Emu] POST WGLC Comments draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13
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Hi Alan,

I added references to RFC 8446 Section 8.1, and 8.2, and 4.2.11. Agree that they are good to point out.

I am not sure about the other suggestions, I am hesitant to discuss anything detailed about TLS 1.3 that does not have a specific connection to EAP-TLS or are useful for users of EAP-TLS. My feeling is that adding some extension, but not other would be even more confusing. The diagrams are there to show the message flows, which have a strong connection to the EAP state machine. For other details I think implementors have to read RFC 8466.

/John

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com>
Date: Wednesday, 18 September 2019 at 15:21
To: "draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13@ietf.org>, EMU WG <emu@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Emu] POST WGLC Comments draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13
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Resent to: John Mattsson <john.mattsson@ericsson.com>, <mohit@piuha.net>
Resent date: Wednesday, 18 September 2019 at 15:21

      Just re-reading the text on PSK, I noticed a few things.  The text in Section 2.1.2 talks about PSK, the session ticket, and a "key_share" extension.   The accompanying diagram doesn't include any of those.  I suggest updating the diagram to include them.
    
      As a related note, if the PSK *is* in the resumption cache, but the key is wrong, the cache entry should not be discarded.  Otherwise an attacker can disable caching for *all* users.  This issue could be clearer in this document.
    
      Perhaps it would be useful to add a short note in Section 5 about security of resumption.  It should reference RFC 8446 Section 8.1, and 8.2, which discuss this issue.  Also, Section 4.2.11 of that document has an "Implementor's note:" which is important.
    
      Alan DeKok.