Re: [Emu] Question for draft-ietf-emu-tls-eap-types-03

Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Sat, 03 July 2021 11:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Emu] Question for draft-ietf-emu-tls-eap-types-03
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On Jul 2, 2021, at 9:16 PM, Tim Cappalli <Tim.Cappalli@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> >> The current specs define the base protocols, but leave pretty much everything else undefined.
>  
> That’s the job of a spec isn’t it? As far as I understand, deploying in the real world / best practices should go in a BCP.

  We have specs with Security Considerations, and implementation guidelines.  They're a lot more than just what bits go on the wire.

  In general, a BCP is too late in the process.  Vendors have already implemented the base spec, so what's "current" is a random grab-bag of stuff decided on by product managers, or by junior engineers.

  I've seen many, many, sites unable to deploy the security they want, due to a wide range of limitations in products.  IMHO, these are security issues, and should be treated as such in the base specification.  There should be clear guidance given on a wide range of issues, such as security, implementation, UI, workflow, etc.

  Not having those guidelines is a large source of income for me.  But it is endlessly frustrating for everyone involved.  I would prefer to help people build useful systems, instead of having them pay me to paper over issues in multiple products.

  Alan DeKok.