Re: [Emu] Provisioning, configuration, etc. and EAP
Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Mon, 28 March 2022 21:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Emu] Provisioning, configuration, etc. and EAP
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On Mar 28, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote: > I understand. > For mechanisms like BRSKI (and CSP/MATTER, and probably UPC UA) where the end > product of onboarding is a certificate issued to the device, then the > question about when to refresh is mostly given by the notAfter parameter. > In most cases one should start refreshing those credentials at the 50% mark. > > The ACME WG is discussing having the certificate renew point be better > specified (in the ACME protocol), but I think that we will learn from this > and wind up with something in the certificate if the protocol can't carry > additional meta-data. That's a good chunk of what I'm proposing in my document. There are often existing cert fields which contain the information needed for configuration. It would be nice to use them. > There are advantages of having renewals spread across time, but there are > also disadvantages as it spreads the failure signal across time as well which > makes it harder to see that there is a real problem. Generally if people can't renew, the server should log errors, or the end user device has a real network where it can report errors. Alan DeKok.
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- Re: [Emu] Provisioning, configuration, etc. and E… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Emu] Provisioning, configuration, etc. and E… Alan DeKok
- Re: [Emu] Provisioning, configuration, etc. and E… Alan DeKok
- Re: [Emu] Provisioning, configuration, etc. and E… Michael Richardson
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