Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text
Joseph Salowey <joe@salowey.net> Tue, 25 May 2021 04:45 UTC
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From: Joseph Salowey <joe@salowey.net>
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Subject: Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text
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I made some changes to the pull request to address some of the comments and make the text clearer: The EAP peer identity provided in the EAP-Response/Identity is not authenticated by EAP-TLS. Unauthenticated information MUST NOT be used for accounting purposes or to give authorization. The authenticator and the EAP-TLS server MAY examine the identity presented in EAP-Response/Identity for purposes such as routing and EAP method selection. EAP-TLS servers MAY reject conversations if the identity does not match their policy. Note that this also applies to resumption, see Sections 2.1.3, 5.6, and 5.7. The EAP server identity in the TLS server certificate is typically a fully qualified domain name (FQDN) in the SubjectAltName (SAN) extension. Since EAP-TLS deployments may use more than one EAP server, each with a different certificate, EAP peer implementations SHOULD allow for the configuration of a unique trusted root (CA certificate) to authenticate the server certificate and one or more server names to match against the SubjectAltName (SAN) extension in the server certificate. To simplify name matching, an EAP-TLS deployment can assign a name to represent an authorized EAP server and EAP Server certificates can include this name in the list of SANs for each certificate that represents an EAP-TLS server. If server name matching is not used, then peers may end up trusting servers for EAP authentication that are not intended to be EAP servers for the network. If name matching is not used with a public root CA, then effectively any server can obtain a certificate which will be trusted for EAP authentication by the Peer. The process of configuring a root CA certificate and a server name is non-trivial and therefore automated methods of provisioning are RECOMMENDED. For example, the eduroam federation [RFC7593] provides a Configuration Assistant Tool (CAT) to automate the configuration process. In the absence of a trusted root CA certificate (user configured or system-wide), EAP peers MAY implement a trust on first use (TOFU) mechanism where the peer trusts and stores the server certificate during the first connection attempt. The EAP peer ensures that the server presents the same stored certificate on subsequent interactions. Use of a TOFU mechanism does not allow for the server certificate to change without out-of-band validation of the certificate and is therefore not suitable for many deployments including ones where multiple EAP servers are deployed for high availability. On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:23 PM Joseph Salowey <joe@salowey.net> wrote: > > > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 5:58 AM Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> > wrote: > >> On May 19, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Oleg Pekar <oleg.pekar.2017@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > After thinking a bit more about it - for the sake of the client >> implementation clarity, would it be better if we provide the strict >> algorithm for server identity check or maybe reference RFC 6125. >> >> Given the time frame and what we know, I think the existing text is OK. >> >> > [Joe] In addition the intent of the text is to make implementers aware of > the issues and provide some guidance as to how to solve the problem. I > don't think we can dictate too much more at this point. We can have > follow-on work to have a strict algorithm is depolyers and implementers > feel it is necessary. > > >> This is what wpa_supplicant does in it's implementation, and it seems >> to work fine. Apple appears to do the same thing: >> >> >> https://opensource.apple.com/source/eap8021x/eap8021x-264.30.3/EAP8021X.fproj/EAPTLSUtil.c.auto.html >> >> Look for "trusted_server_names", which leads to: >> >> >> https://opensource.apple.com/source/eap8021x/eap8021x-156/EAP8021X.fproj/EAPTLSUtil.c >> >> server_name_matches_server_names() >> >> Which checks if the name from the cert is an exact match for one of the >> "trusted_server_names", or contains "*." followed by a suffix which is one >> of the trusted server names. >> >> I think it's past the time where this document can ask supplicants to >> change their behavior. We know what the supplicants do, it's not wrong, >> and it seems to work. So let's document that, and move on. >> >> Alan DeKok. >> >>
- [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Joseph Salowey
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Alan DeKok
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Joseph Salowey
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Alan DeKok
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Eliot Lear
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Russ Housley
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Oleg Pekar
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Oleg Pekar
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Alan DeKok
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Joseph Salowey
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Joseph Salowey
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Alan DeKok
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Heikki Vatiainen
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text Oleg Pekar
- Re: [Emu] EAP-TLS 1.3 Section 2.2 text John Mattsson