Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext
Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com> Sun, 07 September 2014 13:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext
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On 9/6/14 3:38 AM, Eliot Lear wrote: > In the early days fo perpass we had lengthy discussions about the > tension between privacy and ability of security systems to reduce spam. > Below is an article from a gentleman who used to work at Google, which I > thought this group might find interesting. > > https://moderncrypto.org/mail-archive/messaging/2014/000780.html > Along similar lines to what John Levine said,: Obviously doing e2e crypto gets you signatures. Since we are blue-skying here, I think it is perfectly plausible to say, "If you want to send me e2e encrypted messages, you also have to send me signed messages, and you don't or your signature is not in my contacts list already, your encrypted mail is going to bounce." I think it's possible that in the fullness of time, many users go to a contact-list model of email (a la IM) where the mail simply bounces unless it has a signature that is already in the contacts list. pr -- Pete Resnick<http://www.qualcomm.com/~presnick/> Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. - +1 (858)651-4478
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- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Eliot Lear
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Pete Resnick
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Pete Resnick
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Eliot Lear
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Watson Ladd
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Eliot Lear
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Kathleen Moriarty
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- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] where's the end, was spam versus c… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Endymail] where's the end, was spam versus c… John R Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Pete Resnick
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John R Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Werner Koch
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Brandon Long
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Leo Vegoda
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John R Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John R Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker