Re: [Endymail] Another view of the problem and what the IETF could do

Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> Mon, 01 September 2014 10:26 UTC

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:21, tbray@textuality.com said:

> This is a big problem. The PGP Web of Trust has failed, and we’ve all heard

It did not fail; it is just as inconvenient as paying a CA for a
questionable service.  Any extra inconveniences are not good for mass
use of encrypted mails.

> the griping about the CA biz.  Joe Hildebrand mentioned POSH & WebFinger
> and they’re both interesting.  I’m also interested in the notion of a key

They requires that you are always online and thus the service provides
my track even signature verifications.  Without an anonymity
guaranteeing infrastructure this may only be an intermediate solution.

> 5. Display the message appropriately, depending what it is
> This is a problem.  Lots of the messages I want to send are movies or songs
> or pictures, and if there’s no way to communicate the Media Type, it’s less
> useful to the recipient.

You mean for the encrypted data or for the cleartext?  OpenPGP has a
feature to convey the media type - not much options right now but it is
easy to extend.  Or use the standard way and encrypted the MIME
container.


Shalom-Salam,

   Werner


p.s.
BTW, a few years ago we came up with the http://g10code.com/steed.html
proposal.  Unfortunately it didn't worked out because the mail
providers had zero interest in supporting even a prototype.

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