Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext
Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Sat, 06 September 2014 13:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext
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Hi Stephen, While I think it would be fun to talk with the gentleman about his bitcoin thinking, the key part that I intended for this group was the situational analysis involving spam and how bad guys behave. Eliot On 9/6/14, 2:34 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Hiya, > > On 06/09/14 07:38, Eliot Lear wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > In the early days fo perpass we had lengthy discussions about the > > tension between privacy and ability of security systems to reduce > > spam. Below is an article from a gentleman who used to work at > > Google, which I thought this group might find interesting. > > > https://moderncrypto.org/mail-archive/messaging/2014/000780.html > > That's a good posting all right. And I agree that anyone who's > trying to offer a solution in this space has to meet the really > hard challenge of producing a system that doesn't allow spam to > take over. > > But recall that this list is not here to design or pick a solution, > but rather to see what bits of IETF work might enable some > solutions to evolve successfully. So it is valid to e.g. say that > some key management foo or message format bar work would be > needed and valuable to standardise even while we don't have a > solution available for the spam problem. > > Cheers, > S. > > > > > Eliot > > > > > _______________________________________________ Endymail mailing > > list Endymail@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/endymail > > > _______________________________________________ > Endymail mailing list > Endymail@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/endymail > >
- [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Eliot Lear
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Eliot Lear
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Pete Resnick
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Pete Resnick
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Eliot Lear
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Watson Ladd
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Eliot Lear
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [Endymail] where's the end, was spam versus c… John Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] where's the end, was spam versus c… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Endymail] where's the end, was spam versus c… John R Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Pete Resnick
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John R Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Werner Koch
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Brandon Long
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Leo Vegoda
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Cyrus Daboo
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John R Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext John R Levine
- Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext Dave Crocker