Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Sat, 06 September 2014 13:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Endymail] spam versus cleartext
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Hi Stephen,

While I think it would be fun to talk with the gentleman about his
bitcoin thinking, the key part that I intended for this group was the
situational analysis involving spam and how bad guys behave.

Eliot


On 9/6/14, 2:34 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>
> Hiya,
>
> On 06/09/14 07:38, Eliot Lear wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
>
> > In the early days fo perpass we had lengthy discussions about the
> > tension between privacy and ability of security systems to reduce
> > spam. Below is an article from a gentleman who used to work at
> > Google, which I thought this group might find interesting.
>
> > https://moderncrypto.org/mail-archive/messaging/2014/000780.html
>
> That's a good posting all right. And I agree that anyone who's
> trying to offer a solution in this space has to meet the really
> hard challenge of producing a system that doesn't allow spam to
> take over.
>
> But recall that this list is not here to design or pick a solution,
> but rather to see what bits of IETF work might enable some
> solutions to evolve successfully. So it is valid to e.g. say that
> some key management foo or message format bar work would be
> needed and valuable to standardise even while we don't have a
> solution available for the spam problem.
>
> Cheers,
> S.
>
>
>
> > Eliot
>
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