[Endymail] Off we go...

Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 26 August 2014 22:34 UTC

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Hi all,

We've got 88 people subscribed now, which is pretty quick for a list 
like this. Seems like there really is interest in the topic, which is good.

What we'd suggest is to start off with some sharing about what folks 
are/have-been doing in this space. We know there are a range of projects 
and proposals and it'd be good to get some information/pointers on those 
we all know about.

Its probably worth stating now that this list is *not* intended to pick 
a winner amongst those, nor to anoint one as the "official" IETF thing, 
so luckily we don't need to have a bunfight about which is the shiniest 
proposal of them all. :-)

Rather a goal of this list is to identify bits of work that the IETF 
could do to help such projects/proposals so they could achieve 
significant deployment. So if there are common bits to some 
projects/proposals that'd be interesting and especially if there'd be 
value in having those bits standardized. Or if there are other ways in 
which we could help things along that's fair game for discussion too.

And I suppose its inevitable that we'll discuss requirements and the 
real-world constraints on solutions too. And even get new and possibly 
radical proposals for how to do better in this space. And those are also 
OK and interesting for this list.

Success here will be when/if we identify some bit(s) of work that the 
IETF could credibly do that'd improve the real-world end-to-end security 
and privacy of email. And note that "credible" there requires stuff to 
be both technically sane and to have a sufficient set of capable folks 
interested and willing to do work.

When/if we do identify such, we'd probably want to start a new WG/list 
to actually do the work identified at which point this list could 
languish or continue on with more discussion of the next good thing(s) 
to do.

So off we go... What projects are folks working on, and what should the 
IETF be doing in this space?

Cheers,
Pete & Stephen