[Entmib] RE: More on Standby #332
"Sharon Chisholm" <schishol@nortelnetworks.com> Fri, 13 February 2004 22:07 UTC
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From: Sharon Chisholm <schishol@nortelnetworks.com>
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Subject: [Entmib] RE: More on Standby #332
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Make that 332 -----Original Message----- From: Chisholm, Sharon [CAR:0S00:EXCH] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 5:03 PM To: 'entmib@ietf.org' Subject: RE: More on Standby #322 Hi This and your email titled "Standby" are being tracked as issue #322. I think you might be reading too much into the connection between state, status and their data type. That was certainly never done intentionally on my part and the OSI thing is a status. I'm fine with adding this additional enumeration if there are no objections. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: David T. Perkins [mailto:dperkins@dsperkins.com] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:04 AM To: Chisholm, Sharon [CAR:0S00:EXCH]; entmib@ietf.org Subject: More on Standby HI, Here is a replacement for TC StandbyStatus: StandbyState ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION STATUS current DESCRIPTION " Represents the possible values of standby state. The value 'notAvailable(1)' means that no information is available on the standby state for the entity. The value 'hotStandby(2)' means the entity is not providing service, and will be immediately able to start providing service for the entity being backed up without the need for initialization activity, and will contain the same information as the entity being backed up. The value 'coldStandy(3)' means the entity is not providing service, and will be able to start providing service for an entity (possibly one from a set) being backed up, and will require some initialization activity. The value 'providingService(4)' means the entity is providing service. The value 'providingSharedService(5)' means the entity is providing service that is summed with the service provided by other entities." REFERENCE "ITU Recommendation X.731, 'Information Technology - Open Systems Interconnection - System Management: State Management Function', 1992" SYNTAX INTEGER { notAvailable(1), hotStandby(2), coldStandby(3), providingService(4), providingSharedService(5) } And a replacement for entStateStandby: entStateStandby OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX StandbyStatus MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "The standby state for this entity. A value of 'notAvailable' means that this entity is unable to determine standby state. Some entities will exhibit only a subset of the remaining standby state values. If this entity cannot operate in a standby role, then the value with always be 'providingService'." ::= { entStateEntry 6 } >Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:41:02 -0800 >To: "Sharon Chisholm" <schishol@nortelnetworks.com>, entmib@ietf.org >From: "David T. Perkins" <dperkins@dsperkins.com> >Subject: Standby > >HI, > >"Standby status" items should be renamed to "standby state" to be >consistent with the other naming of other items in the MIB module. >(Items are "state" when value is an enumerated int, and "status" when >the value is a bit string.) > >There is one important value missing from the enums for standby. It is >the one that means that the service output is combined with other >entities. This is commonly found with power supplies where the output >is "summed". > >Section 2.2 is incorrect. It implies that by reading the value of >entStandbyStatus for all entities, then entities can be classified as >redundant (or protected). This is not true. Say that there are two >entities that are identical and provide a "protected" service. At any >time, only one is providing service, and the other is standing by >protecting the other. A "protection switch" causes the roles to change >(that is the one providing service will switch to standing by, and the >one standing by will start to providing service). > >In general, this MIB module does not provide enough information to >determine 1) which entities are protected, 2) the relationship between >the entities that are protected and the entities providing protection. > >Regards, >/david t. perkins /david t. perkins _______________________________________________ Entmib mailing list Entmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib
- [Entmib] RE: More on Standby #332 Sharon Chisholm