RE: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet?

"Faye Ly" <> Mon, 19 July 2004 18:44 UTC

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I am not sure if any progress needs to be made per Kaj's email on 6/17:

>Dan, thanks for your review offer!
>My understanding of the status and issues is the following:
>1. document title is too vague
>      Can be fixed in several ways; several alternatives
>       were posted; seems fixable.
>2. opaque object is cumbersome to implement
>      Dave P. was going to write a URN based proposal;
>      once there's consensus it can easily be inserted
>3. acceptance as work item
>      There have been several expressions of support, but not yet
>      formal acceptance as a work item, and related WG charter
>      extension

Given that Dave is the one that raised issue for 2 and have not provided
any proposal yet.  I think we can easily solve 1 and move this draft
forward.  Dave??


-----Original Message-----
From: David B Harrington [] 
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 11:10 AM
To: Faye Ly; 'Romascanu, Dan (Dan)'; 'Margaret Wasserman';
Subject: RE: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet?


In Minneapolis, it was decided that this could not become a WG item
unless progress was made on existing WG items. Are we ready to move the
State mib forward, or should we drop it? What remains to be done before
submitting this to the IESG?

If work has not progressed, then the State MIB should be killed, as per
agreement reached in Minneapolis (is anybody implementing this mib?). 

If the WG does still want the State mib to advance, then maybe the WG
should meet and hammer out the final draft so it can stop being a
bottleneck. Not having a meeting doesn't help get the work done.

I support accepting the manufacturing date mib as a WG item as well,
after resolving the State MIB progress, and the WG could discuss any
needed changes to the details of this mib to make it acceptable as a WG
item if there was a WG meeting.

An interim meeting might be better for focused work, but I suspect that
without a regular meeting an interim meeting won't be permitted.

So I recommend that there be a **working** group meeting in San Diego to
make some real progress on these two mibs. 


-----Original Message-----
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I concur.  I think we should move this MIB forward or get it done. -faye

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:10 AM
To: Margaret Wasserman;
Subject: RE: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet?


I do not have a strong objection to Entity MIB WG not meeting in San

I would like however to see the 'Entity MIB Extensions for manufacturing
date and physical module identification' a.k.a 'Kaj's draft' being
continued and worked out as a standards track document. What are the
reasons that you are not prepared to take this charter item, which seems
to have received a fair amount of interest? I believe this is relative
small amount of work, and possibly Kaj can complete it in one or two
rounds if we do not philosophize too much around it. I volunteered to be
a reviewer. There may be no need for meetings. 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: []On 
> Behalf Of Margaret Wasserman
> Sent: 19 July, 2004 7:10 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Entmib] To meet or not to meet?
> Hi again,
> Just so that everyone knows, I have _not_ requested an Entity MIB 
> meeting for San Diego.  If you have any strong objection to this 
> decision, please let me know before 5pm EST today.
> We do need to finish the Entity State MIB and get it submitted to the 
> IESG, but I don't think that the remaining issues justify a 
> face-to-face meeting.
> I also support the idea that Kaj Tesink's draft should be completed 
> and published, but it is not in-charter for this group and I am not 
> prepared to take on new charter items at this time.  Folks who want to

> work on this should talk to Kaj and/or Bert Wijnen and decide how to 
> move it forward.  Perhaps an individual submission would make the most

> sense given that it is a short/simple MIB?
> Margaret
> At 3:24 PM -0400 6/17/04, Margaret Wasserman wrote:
> >Hi All,
> >
> >We should decide soon whether or not the Entity MIB WG will meet in 
> >San Diego.  Thoughts?
> >
> >If we do meet, what are the likely agenda items?
> >
> >Margaret
> >
> >
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