Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3
Andy Bierman <abierman@cisco.com> Wed, 01 December 2004 18:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3
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At 01:48 PM 11/30/2004, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: >On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 04:08:36PM -0500, David B Harrington wrote: > >[...] > >> To clarify my position - entPhysicalUris hasn't been sufficiently >> justified or specified to be included in the entity mib; we should >> eliminate it. > >Now this is a clear statement. I do not agree but that is fine. >It is now time for others to speak up and if I am the clear minority >here because nobody cares, then go ahead and nuke the definition. I don't care that much either way if this object stays, but let's decide already. ********************************************************* Here is what we have in the document now: In 2.12.1 (describes entPhysicalGroup): - entPhysicalUris This object provides additional identification information about the physical entity. This object may be used to encode for example a URI containing a Common Language Equipment Identifier (CLEI) URI [reference TBD] for the managed physical entity. If no additional identification information is known or supported about the physical entity the object is not instantiated. In the MIB: entPhysicalUris OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX OCTET STRING MAX-ACCESS read-write STATUS current DESCRIPTION "This object contains additional identification information about the physical entity. The object contains URIs and therefore the syntax of this object must conform to RFC 2396 [RFC2396] section 2. Multiple URIs may be separated by white space characters." REFERENCE "RFC 2396, Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI): Generic Syntax, section 2, August 1998." ::= { entPhysicalEntry 18 } ************************************************************************* Issues: - Reference for CLEI missing - Is zero-length string allowed, instead or as well as not instantiated? - Is only whitespace allowed? - Is preceding or trailing whitespace allowed? - RFC 2396, sec. 2 defines structure of a generic URI. This is a very proprietary object in nature. Not only is the value set proprietary (our normal mode, e.g., sysObjectID), but the even the purpose of the value set is proprietary. Therefore, this is a total placeholder object. The issue is: Is that okay or not? IMO, this object is too vague to be in a standards document. I must admit I was paying attention to NETCONF while this group changed 'Clei' to 'Uris' in the object descriptor, so I don't know the rationale behind the change. I would approve of an entPhysicalCleis object, that contains a list of URIs that each conform to a documented content-specific structure, as well as the generic URI structure. (e.g., a REFERENCE for the CLEI URI format). >/js Andy _______________________________________________ Entmib mailing list Entmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib
- [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Andy Bierman
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Andy Bierman
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Andy Bierman
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Juergen Schoenwaelder
- RE: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 David B Harrington
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Juergen Schoenwaelder
- RE: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 David B Harrington
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Andy Bierman
- RE: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Kaj Tesink
- RE: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Kaj Tesink
- RE: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Margaret Wasserman
- RE: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- RE: [Entmib] Entity MIB v3 Wijnen, Bert (Bert)