Re: Re: [Entmib] CLEI Code URN draft
Kaj Tesink <kaj@research.telcordia.com> Thu, 16 December 2004 20:27 UTC
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:09:49 -0500
To: Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com>
From: Kaj Tesink <kaj@research.telcordia.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [Entmib] CLEI Code URN draft
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At 04:53 PM 12/14/2004, Randy Presuhn wrote: >Hi - > > > From: "Kaj Tesink" <kaj@research.telcordia.com> > > To: "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> > > Cc: <entmib@ietf.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:10 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: [Entmib] CLEI Code URN draft >... > > >Wouldn't it be simpler to say that CLEI codes MUST be upper case? > > > > > > maybe so, but as i understand it T1.213 is case-insensitive, > > so restricting the URN name space to upper case seems inappropriate. >... > >My concerns are mailnly with regard to the future if these things prove >useful. > 1) consider what it would take to describe the behaviour of read-write > objects that used these (after a write, would the value read be > bit-for-bit > identical, or merely fit the matching rules?) > 2) if they were used for indexing... > >If their definition is already case insensitive, then I think we'd really >be better >off deciding what their "canonical" representation should be for our purposes. >However, I freely admit this is a theoretical concern, and that if we >don't imagine >these being used in other MIB object definitions, there's less need to worry >about it. randy, i agree that at this stage your point is theoretical but at the same time we dont want to go in a direction that we may regret later on. i checked a bit more with the CLEI folks, and the following transpired: - T1.213 is case-insensitive - the maintenance agent in practice only assigns codes using uppercase representation; the records are kept uppercase - the maintenance agent can load records in lower case and their system will convert it to uppercase - common representation is usually in uppercase so in practice we seem to have two choices for the URN space: 1.sticking with case-insensitive, i.e., be strictly compatible with T1.213, or 2.going for uppercase only, which would be compatible with practical use but narrow the application of T1.213 any further thoughts? kaj >Randy > > > >_______________________________________________ >Entmib mailing list >Entmib@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Kaj Tesink Telcordia Technologies. Inc. One Telcordia drive Piscataway, NJ 08854 Email: kaj@research.telcordia.com Tel: (732) 699-6068 Fax: (732) 336-2336 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _______________________________________________ Entmib mailing list Entmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/entmib
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- Fwd: Re: [Entmib] CLEI Code URN draft Kaj Tesink
- Re: Re: [Entmib] CLEI Code URN draft Randy Presuhn
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- Re: Re: [Entmib] CLEI Code URN draft Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: Re: [Entmib] CLEI Code URN draft Randy Presuhn
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