RE: [Enum] Re: URI Portability
"Michael Hammer \(mhammer\)" <mhammer@cisco.com> Wed, 08 February 2006 19:06 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Enum] Re: URI Portability
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:06:00 -0500
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From: "Michael Hammer (mhammer)" <mhammer@cisco.com>
To: Otmar Lendl <lendl@nic.at>, enum@ietf.org
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Otmar, What do you think are the chances of my getting the mike@hammer.com, hammer.net, hammer.org, ... domain name? The problem is only shifted. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: enum-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:enum-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Otmar Lendl > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 12:48 PM > To: enum@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Enum] Re: URI Portability > > On 2006/02/08 18:02, james.f.baskin@verizon.com wrote: > > Richard, > > > > I must be missing something. As far as I know, > individually-owned or > > company-owned domain names ARE portable. I can have any service > > provider run a web server for my domain. I can have a separate > > provider handle my email. I can have lots of providers > handle lots of > > different services for me, and I can switch any particular service > > from any provider to any other at any time. > > > > What kind of portability isn't already implemented? What > portability > > functions are you looking for that aren't available today? > > Have you ever asked one of the new SIP based VoIP outfits > (Vonage, SIPhone, Gizmo, VoIPbuster, SIPgate, ...) whether > their system copes with customers wanting to use their own > domain for the SIP URIs these services use? > > I haven't seen that yet. > > The protocol support ist there, no question. But in term of > implementation we're at the level of email anno 1992 where > most people had to use user@provider as their email address. > > To make things even more interesting: have a look at the the > IMS and all the other NGN efforts. From what I have heard, > these people don't want to rely on the public DNS for any of > their call routing decisions. They can easily build their own > private DNS on their GRX (or whatever) network and store the > domains of the carriers in there. > > I can't see how such a private DNS infrastructure can ever > cope with people wanting to user their own domains in an IMS > or NGN setting. Either you duplicate the public DNS in your > walled garden or you abandon your "never depend on the public > Internet principle". > > So: There is a real chance that for the near future people > will have no choice but use sip:user@provider as their SIP address. > > I thus consider it not _that_ unlikely that regulators will > step in and force portability for such addresses. > > Summary: Right now, E.164 numbers are still the primary > addressing mechanism for most SIP/VoIP services. Once that > starts to change and people start to put SIP addresses on > their business cards, then all providers MUST offer the > option of using a customer-owned domain. > > Failing to support that early can spell trouble down the road. > > /ol > -- > < Otmar Lendl (lendl@nic.at) | nic.at Systems Engineer > > > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum > _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum
- [Enum] Re: URI Portability Stastny Richard
- RE: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Stastny Richard
- RE: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Enum] Re: URI Portability james.f.baskin
- Re: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Stastny Richard
- Re: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Tim Ruiz
- RE: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Richard Shockey
- RE: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Otmar Lendl
- Re: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Enum] Re: URI Portability Patrik Fältström
- [Enum] draft-ietf-enum-validation-token-01.txt Tony Rutkowski
- [Enum] Re: draft-ietf-enum-validation-token-01.txt Otmar Lendl
- [Enum] Re: draft-ietf-enum-validation-token-01.txt Tony Rutkowski