Re: [eppext] draft-ietf-eppext-launchphase Support for a "Claims Service" post the Claims Phase

"Gould, James" <JGould@verisign.com> Thu, 08 January 2015 19:15 UTC

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Trung,

If the desire is to determine whether there is a trademark against the name, the client could pass “claims” even though “claims” may be a past phase, assuming that the server supports it.  Do you know why a client would want to know this if a claims notice is not required for the active phase?

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On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Tran, Trung <Trung.Tran@neustar.biz<mailto:Trung.Tran@neustar.biz>> wrote:

Thanks Jim for bringing this to the eppext.  This will definitely help the post claims phase.

With the wording changes, is there still a way to determine if there’s a trademark against the name regardless on whether or not the claims ack is needed in the create domain?

Trung
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Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 11:15 AM
To: "Gould, James" <JGould@verisign.com<mailto:JGould@verisign.com>>, "eppext@ietf.org<mailto:eppext@ietf.org>" <eppext@ietf.org<mailto:eppext@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [eppext] draft-ietf-eppext-launchphase Support for a "Claims Service" post the Claims Phase

Thanks Jim.

>From a registrar perspective, this will solve the issue of domains that are released after the initial 90 day claims period but still require a claim to be presented to the customer.

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Jody Kolker
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Subject: [eppext] draft-ietf-eppext-launchphase Support for a "Claims Service" post the Claims Phase

All,

There was an issue raised privately in supporting claims as a Claims Service post the Claims Phase.   According to section 2.4.3 of the RPM Requirements, “...releases for Allocation or registration such reserved domain name at any time following the start date of the Claims Period, such domain MUST be subject to the Claims Services (as described in Section 3) for a period of ninety (90) calendar days following the date Registry Operator releases such domain name for registration…”.  This means that support for the Claims Check Form needs to be revised to indicate whether or not the Claims Create Form is needed for the domain name and the use of the Claims Create Form should be supported in phases other than “claims”.  There are no XML schema changes required to support this.  Please review and provide feedback to the proposed revised language in the draft below to include in the next version of the draft that will also include the Implementation Status section discussed at the IETF-91 EPPEXT meeting.

Change 3.1.1 "Claims Check Form" as follows:


   The Claims Check Form defines a new command called the Claims Check

   Command that is used to determine whether or not there are any

   matching trademarks, in the specified launch phase, for each domain

   name passed in the command, that requires the use of the "Claims Create Form"

   on a Domain Create Command.



   Instead of returning whether the domain name is available, the Claims

   Check Command will return whether or not at least one matching

   trademark exists for the domain name, that requires the use of the

   "Claims Create Form" on a Domain Create Command.



   <launch:name>  Contains the fully qualified name of the queried

           domain name.  This element MUST contain an "exists" attribute

           whose value indicates if a matching trademark exists for the

           domain name that requires the use of the "Claims Create Form" on a Domain Create Command.

           A value of "1" (or "true") means that a

           matching trademark does exist and that the "Claims Create Form" is required on

           a Domain Create Command.  A

           value of "0" (or "false") means that a matching trademark

           does not exist or that the "Claims Create Form" is NOT required on a Domain Create Command.



Change 3.3.2 "Claims Create Form" as follows:


<launch:phase>  SHOULD contain the value of "claims" to indicate the

       claims launch phase.  A value other than "claims" MAY be used to

pass the claims notice for domain names outside of the claims phase.



Based on the above revised language the following may be done:


  1.  During claims phase with a claims check command

     *   If domain has matching trademark

        *   return exists=true

     *   else

        *   return exists=false

  1.  During post claims phase with a claims check command

     *   If domain was released post claims phase start and is within 90 days of release and has matching trademark

        *   return exists=true

     *   else

        *   return exists=false



  1.  During claims phase with a create command

     *   If domain has matching trademark

        *   claims notice is required

     *   else

        *   claims notice is NOT required

  1.  During post claims phase with a create command

     *   If domain was released post claims phase start and is within 90 days of release and has matching trademark return

        *   claims notice is required

     *   else

        *   claims notice is NOT required



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