Re: [eppext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt

Ed Pascoe <ed@pascoe.co.za> Wed, 18 February 2015 06:02 UTC

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While I think this extension is well written and valuable I do have to
question if a standards track is appropriate?

The competing version of this is the UnitedTLD "Price Categories Guide"
http://rightside.co/fileadmin/downloads/policies/Rightside_Price_Categories.pdf
which has not been formally published. However its in active use by
Rightside, Donuts and Domain Name Services (that I know of) meaning that
around 190 new TLDs are using it or about to do so.

So the question is where do we go to from here? Do we try and get Rightside
to have the original author publish it to the EPP extension registry or do
we pretend it doesn't exist and ignore the significant percentage of new
TLDs using it?


On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Gavin Brown <gavin.brown@centralnic.com>
wrote:

> I've just submitted a new version of the fee extension draft for your
> review.
>
> 9.4. Changes from 03 to 04
>
>    1.  Changed Intended Status to Standards Track.
>
>    2.  As per suggestion from Michael Bauland, the <fee:period> element
>        is no longer included in <check> and <info> responses for
>        "restore" commands.  It's still mandatory for all other commands.
>
>    3.  Added summary of the attributes for the <fee:fee> element.
>
>    4.  Clarified that the "refundable" and "grace-period" attributes of
>        the <fee> fee elements are dependant on each other and cannot
>        appear on their own.
>
>    5.  Removed the option of returning a 1001 response when the fee is
>        incorrect.
>
>    6.  Forbidden the inclusion of extension elements in transform
>        responses if no fee/credit has been assessed.
>
>    7.  Made the <fee:currency> element optional in transform commands.
>
>    8.  Amended XML Namespace section of IANA Considerations, added EPP
>        Extension Registry section.
>
> 10. TODO
>
>
>    (Note to RFC Editor: remove this section before publication as an
>    RFC.)
>
>    1.  Make the extension object-agnostic so it can be used with other
>        objects, not just vanilla domains.
>
>    2.  Change the <check> command so that availability data is not
>        returned.
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 02:16:09 -0800
> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> To: Gavin Brown <gavin.brown@centralnic.com>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Gavin Brown and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name:           draft-brown-epp-fees
> Revision:       04
> Title:          Registry Fee Extension for the Extensible Provisioning
> Protocol
> (EPP)
> Document date:  2015-02-17
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          36
> URL:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brown-epp-fees/
> Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-brown-epp-fees-04
> Diff:           http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-brown-epp-fees-04
>
> Abstract:
>    This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
>    extension mapping for registry fees.
>
>
>
>
>
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> submission
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>
> The IETF Secretariat
>
>
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> Gavin Brown
> Chief Technology Officer
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