Re: [eppext] what to do about IDN tables

James Galvin <galvin@elistx.com> Wed, 04 November 2015 21:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [eppext] what to do about IDN tables
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Thanks for bring this summary forward.

We just need to consider what to do with respect to the Wilcox document.

Jim



On 11/4/15 4:23 PM, Gould, James wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I will be speaking to draft-gould-idn-table at meeting.  I haven’t
> reviewed draft-wilcox-cira-idn-eppext, so I’m unsure of the overlap with
> draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap and draft-gould-idn-table.   The authors of
> draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap and I created draft-gould-idn-table to address
> one key item missing from draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap which was how to
> identify the valid set of table identifiers to pass using
> draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap for an IDN domain name.  We discussed the issue
> on the list over a period of time, where I was proposing to use language
> instead of a table identifier.  We agreed to stick with the table
> identifier, but we needed a reliable way to determine the table
> identifiers specific to the server, which is addressed with
> draft-gould-idn-table.  Both draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap and
> draft-gould-idn-table have been implemented in the Verisign EPP SDK that
> includes a client and server implementation.  Ideally
> draft-gould-idn-table and draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap would move up
> together, but if not draft-gould-idn-table should be included in the
> next set of working group documents.
>
> Let me know if you have any additional questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> —
>
>
> JG
>
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>> On Nov 4, 2015, at 4:01 PM, James Galvin <galvin@elistx.com
>> <mailto:galvin@elistx.com>> wrote:
>>
>> A question that will be asked in the working group meeting today is
>> what to do about IDN tables?
>>
>> There is a working group document that has recently expired:
>>
>> draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap/
>>
>> This document is languishing because Francisco has not gotten the
>> required implementation statements yet.  We can certainly revive it
>> but we may need to consider moving forward with incomplete
>> implementation reports.
>>
>> In addition, there were two related individual submissions that have
>> also recently expired:
>>
>> draft-gould-idn-table/
>> draft-wilcox-cira-idn-eppext/
>>
>> These three documents are not all the same but they are related.  The
>> question is how to move forward.
>>
>> Are Gould and Wilcox withdrawing their documents?  Are they going to
>> seek publication in the EPP Extensions Registry?
>>
>> If they want to seek being adopted by the working group then we will
>> need to address the apparent relationship with the existing working
>> group document.
>>
>> Comments and suggestions are welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim
>>
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