Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0E81A90A9 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:00:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, J_CHICKENPOX_37=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5yI_6459r2rP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out.west.pexch112.icann.org (pfe112-ca-1.pexch112.icann.org [64.78.40.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15D301A9094 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) by PMBX112-W1-CA-2.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1044.25; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:00:27 -0700 Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org ([64.78.40.21]) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG ([64.78.40.21]) with mapi id 15.00.1044.021; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:00:27 -0700 From: Gustavo Lozano To: =?Windows-1252?Q?Patrik_Wallstr=F6m?= , "Hollenbeck, Scott" Thread-Topic: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry Thread-Index: AQHRAQiF8QwlLt7wHEa5Mfuyers7Pw== Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 14:00:27 +0000 Message-ID: References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <9FBF2B96-1FF2-4A5F-9697-388AEA71BF67@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AB58B@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <88246F46-92E4-4848-BC5B-2275E942C4AF@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0ABD5A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.5.150821 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [192.0.32.234] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3527056817_482256" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: Kaveh Ranjbar , "gtld-tech@icann.org" , "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:00:31 -0000 --B_3527056817_482256 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable IMHO, this group (EPPEXT) could define a BCP for RDAP implementers (e.g. clients, DNRs, RIRs) of RDAP. This document could contain text like: * if you have information about an object, but you know about of another entity that may have extra information of the same object, you can use a links members with a rel:related to link to the RDAP server of the other entity =8A (thin DNRs->Registrars, RIRs->NIRs->ISPs, etc) * HTTPS SHOULD be used, and the RDAP service MUST use the best practices for secure use of TLS as described in RFC7525 or its successors. This group (EPPEXT) could define a BCP for DNRs (e.g. ccTLDs, gTLDs, etc). This document could contain text like: * if you support IDN registrations, you MUST .... Maybe the RIRs are interested in defining a BCP for RIRs? The gTLD profile is a document related to ICANN policies, and like the gTLD Whois advisory and the technical provisions of the registry agreement or RAA, should follow the ICANN process (e.g getting feedback from the ICANN constituencies, public comments, etc). At this moment, the gTLD profile contains technical implementation provisions, because there are no documents that define those technical provisions, but a future version of the gTLD profile could remove the implementation provisions by referencing to the appropiate RFC(s). The open issues of appendix A of the gTLD profile should be addressed by one or several I-Ds, but I don=B9t think they are only related to gTLDs. For example, I know of at least a ccTLD that implements 5. gTLD Registries want to have full requirements and an implementation plan for all RDSS (i.e. whois, rdap) related activities, therefore the schedule to have the gTLD profile ready looks tight. Regards, Gustavo On 10/7/15, 08:33, "EppExt on behalf of Patrik Wallstr=F6m" wrote: > >> On 07 Oct 2015, at 13:22, Hollenbeck, Scott >>wrote: >>=20 >> Another possibility: a Best Current Practice (BCP) document. We=B9ll need >>to think about what we think the =B3best practices=B2 should be, but that >>would be time well spent. Back to Gustavo=B9s original question=8A >>=20 >> Yes, I=B9d like to see bits like this documented in an I-D that describes >>things that need to be added to RDAP for use by gTLD registries and >>registrars. However, I=B9m going to suggest that we take an inventory of >>those omissions and try to organize them in some way so that we don=B9t >>end up with multiple small documents that might instead be represented >>as a smaller number of larger documents. The profile document already >>has a good list of open issues; here=B9s a thought on how to organize and >>address them. > >I think two documents might be good, one BCP for implementors (however, >remembering RFC 4641 for DNSSEC, it is way to early in the deployment >process to create a BCP) and an informational document for ICANNs >requirements for gTLDs. I don=B9t think that the IETF ever distinguishes >between gTLDs and other TLDs, since this is purely an ICANN distinction.. > >> 1. Gustavo=B9s links suggestion below. >>=20 >> 2. Jim Gould=B9s status value mapping: >>=20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gould-epp-rdap-status-mapping/ >>=20 >> 3. The =B3the last update date and time of the database used to generate >>the RDAP responses=B2 event. >>=20 >> 4. An event with the expiration date of the Registrar. >>=20 >> 5. If a Registry supports multiple host objects with the same name, the >>Registry MUST support the capability to respond with a set of host >>objects in response to a name server lookup. >>=20 >> I think these could be combined into one =B3RDAP extensions for gTLD >>Registries and Registrars=B2 document. Additional search functionality, >>including Boolean search support, could be described in either this >>document or another document. If it=B9s simple, include it all in one >>document. If it isn=B9t, separate the topics so that the simpler ones can >>move ahead more quickly. > >I would prefer if draft-gould-epp-rdap-status-mapping can go to standards >track as a separate document, as it is beneficial for all TLD registries >using EPP. > >> So I=B9m suggesting a new for two or three documents: one or two that >>describe additional needed functionality and one that describes the op > >Yes, agree. > --B_3527056817_482256 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIITsQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIITojCCE54CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC EX0wggb4MIIF4KADAgECAhAMNMzaaOCLlcX5TdjpURhNMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMGIxCzAJ BgNVBAYTAlVTMRUwEwYDVQQKEwxEaWdpQ2VydCBJbmMxGTAXBgNVBAsTEHd3dy5kaWdpY2Vy dC5jb20xITAfBgNVBAMTGERpZ2lDZXJ0IEFzc3VyZWQgSUQgQ0EtMTAeFw0xMzA1MDgwMDAw MDBaFw0xNjA1MDgxMjAwMDBaMIGiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzETMBEGA1UECBMKQ2FsaWZvcm5p 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